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I'm just goint to try to explain. Not saying you aren't an ethical , safe or legal hunter. So don't get your panties all wadded up. Just try to read and understand.

Hunting where many of us grew up was an entry into manhood for a young'un. It was something where we were expected to LEARN(Emphasis is intentional) safety and certain rules. NOT rules of law or ethics or anything. Hunting was a social sport as well as something to put food on the table. As kids we all did things that were not socially acceptable to the people we hunted with. Everyone had their own pet peeves..but we lived within their guidelines ..Heck we were kids..to go hunting with the adults we would do anything. It was being accepted into their group. Most of these people were farmers and we knew if we were accepted into the circle of friends we had Thousands of acres of land to hunt. Now as to a man that hunted with dogs..especially quail or other critters you just didn't ground swat. It wasn't SOCIALLY acceptable. If you didn't want to live within the social rules you just didn't get to hunt with those people..or get to hunt their land. You can say these social rules aren't "fair" of right or whatever. It was the way we were raised and the way we as adults try to conduct ourselves to this day. I'm sorry you didn't get the opportunities to enjoy the sport and comraderie that we did(it just seems by your posts that you didn't). Nobody has said you are an illegal unethical or unsafe hunter. You are entitled to hunt by yourself in whatever manner you choose. But when you hunt with others..ya just gotta fit in. If you think that is wrong..well...I'm sorry but that is the way it is. So I may post more in this thread but nothing else will be addressed to you. Please stop arguing about semantics.

Oh and another thing..we learned when hunting with a new "friend" that we asked what they expected of us. especially a
when we were kids. Still do it today. 12 of us are getting together this Saturday to discuss our elk hunting foray..guess we'll get the major stuff settled then such as camp chores etc.