Skeet... I appreciate all that and is no different than what I wrote you, posted here or whatever.... and this is NOT ABOUT ME skeet. It's amazing how you seem to either NOT READ what I've sent you, or just blindly assume things not in evidence.
What I specifically told you if I remember rightly.. but then it was about 20 minutes or so ago, so my memory might be faulty by now, but I seem to remember telling you that what you are taught are your ethics. Didn't I say that somewhere along the line to you... maybe several times? No matter.. if you are taught that ground sluicing is not acceptable then those become your "ethics" if that is what you want to call it. I agree with that.
If you are taught that ground sluicing is ok and its legal, then those teachings are the ethics as you are taught. Are your ethics more important than someone elses?
If someone new comes into your circle, do you take the time to explain what your practices are... IE... we don't shoot birds on the ground... or conversely, shoot birds on the ground but not over my dog... whatever.. rules are established for the game.
I gave you an example of effective range, or did you not read that part... if one has an effective range of 50 yards, is accurate at 50 yards, and kills 100% at 50 yards... does that individual have a right to impose that limitation on others or they are "unethical" as has been suggested is the attitude of some on this forum?
If you go out and shoot constantly throughout the year and get ready for hunting with your pet loads etc, is your guest who hasn't shot at all since last season unethical because he hasn't practiced to assure himself to as accurate as he could be? Would some folks consider that to be unethical skeet?
Now as for the gist of your last post... Please don't patronize me skeet. You've done that enough already besides calling me stupid. I don't go around insulting peoples intelligence as you do skeet and it is right into the playbook of my "criticism" of those who consider their way the only way and everyone else is "unethical".
Please don't ASSUME anything of my childhood skeet or how "disadvantaged" I may have been. The more you do it the more your ignorance is paraded in front of the forum. I NEVER SAID ANY OF THIS WAS ABOUT ME.... so let's get off that theme too could we.
By the way skeet... how was I supposed to take that "panties" reference skeet... and you wonder why I posted what I did? Like I said skeet, its one thing to grow up with a certain practice or "ethics" and a completely different thing to suggest in an open ended manner to assign as unethical the practices of others just because they don't "fit" your mold.
And then there is the flip flop ethic... this is ok if you're new to hunting to get confident, but as you gain confidence its not. Hello?? We have thought police here? We certainly have some squirrel police here, which I found to be really a big haha and points out exactly what I'm saying. Some people have too much time on their hands yet still don't bother to actually think about what they are saying. And I'm still waiting for the list of "unethicals"... I believe there were about 50?
You said it correctly skeet... finally... you practice your hunting style and your friends who are in your circle have certain practices that YOU all accept as how you hunt. Those in YOUR circle who would not subscribe to YOUR "ethics" should be asked to leave. Who's got a problem with that? I certainly don't. But that is not at all what started this conversation.
If it is legal, there are no unethicals. If you know and stick to your effective range in your hunting gear and have studied your quarry as to where to shoot to kill it, you're ready to hunt.
Aloha..
