i'm a # 6 sorry but as an industrial maintenace mechanic who wrestles with large over size motorsand machinery it comes with the work. Use the grip or lose your life when a couple of tons of moving machinery are involved, plus i'm not small not at 6ft 3in and 280 lbs, i won't shake hands like a dead fish, my other sport masters track and field i compete in the throws events , javelin , discus, hammerthrow ,shotput, and the weight throws which include 25 lbs , 56lbs , 98, lbs, 200 lbs and 300lbs, so a real firm grip is necessary if that bothers people tuff crap then a kiss will do