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Yes but what it boils down to is that LE departments need to get off of their arses and train better swat teams, and force better training on officers. There is absolutely no reason for them to not be practicing on a range once a week and doing live fire (simunitions etc) training at least once a month. PERIOD. Local LE departments require them to hit the range twice a year and burn at least two magazines for qualification purposes. BTW most LE Swat Sniper/countersnipers rarely practice beyond 200 yards. Thats nice. So what do you do when the sniper is in the top of a 30 story building and you can't get to him? You throw a shoe at him or what?
As for the kalifornistan shootout the problem was that you had body armored targets and NOBODY willing or capable of taking a head shot, or a groin shot. Had they had a swat sniper who could have taken a shot from say 400 yards out then they could have shot the head (madula oblongata casserola) or a groin shot (femoral artery salsaria) then it would have been over in minutes, AND the officer would have been out of the line of fire. Also let us not forget that the real issue in that fight was underpowered weaponry as much as lack of a jerk on a trigger. Try shooting the armored bad guy with a 308, 30-06, or any mule deer capable caliber and see if it don't work a wittle better than 9mm, and buckshot from 30+ yards.
I feel for the officers, I really do. When time came for a local department to long gun up what did they buy? AR-15s in 223. Why? In case a maniac with a deer rifle opened fire. Well uhmmm how about an AR-10 in 308 instead you putzes? You are worried about a drunk with a deer rifle and you buy a overzealous squirrel gun? For the love of all that is good and holy buy a freakin caliber that can do the job FROM FURTHER OUT so that you don't get officers killed. I mean after all you aren't going to train them properly to shoot the gun anyway (the same local agency trains from no more than 50 yards out with long guns because thats as big as the range is. . . . . ) why not give them a caliber that an idiot can graze meat with and still do damage?
I gotta stop now before I lose my mind and my blood preassure reptures, but I will say this last thing. Until we stop letting bean counters make the choices LEOs are NEVER going to be up to par for a heavy situation. PERIOD.
GoodOlBoy
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