[GoodOlBoy]

Alrighty first of all let me appologize for my tone yesterday. I realize now that it was more than a bit harsh, chalk it up to the migrain I had all day long (had the lights off in my office because it was so bad).

Now let me approach this from another direction. Within its limitations the 5.56/223 in the AR/M16/M4 platform is a great round. The whole setup however is a MEDIUM range setup compared to cartridges of the past. It doesn't mean the caliber nor the platform is junk thats NOT what I am saying. It means that I think the usefulness of a medium range assault rifle setup is in just that. . . . a MEDIUM range ASSAULT rifle setup. FAR too many organizations are trying to use this platform and setup for a long range solution, and while yes there are people who can make the shots at long range even with this setup this is not what it was designed for and not where it shines. Let me give an example below.

We have a local on campus building that is 16 stories tall with an additional 12 feet over the center columned elevator bank. Should a shooter with a 30-06 manage to take a stand on top of that bank all the buildings within 2000 yards except for two at approximately 900 yards that are side by side are 5 stories or less in height. AND there is NO other buildings withing 150 yards of the base of this tower. East of the building is clear nothing for 240+ yards then there are a few single story buildings. North of it are two dorms at 4 stories tall at approximately 150 yards out. North of those at approx 900 yards from the base of the tower are two 14 story towers that are 45 yards apart along an east west axis. West of the tower there are a few 4 to 5 story buildings approximately 400-500 yards out and further. South of the building there is nothing for maybe 700 yards before you get to parking lots, tennis courts, etc. There are no cover places on top of most of those buildings, AND the roof entrance to the tower is on the north face of the elevator shaft he would be setting on. IF a shooter with a 30-06 deer rifle who knows ANYTHING about shooting gets up there you are in SERIOUS trouble since ALL local law enforcement are equiped with ONLY ARs in 223, and I MEAN 223 they are not using 5.56. I am not saying we should dump ALL AR and M16 platforms. I am saying I have seen these guys shoot and a couple of them could probably drive home, get a deer rifle and make a pretty fair attempt at a shot, but the danged sure can't do it with the ARs they are issued. If there were even a SINGLE shooters armed with a 308 bolt gun or an AR-10 there are a FEW (not alot but a few) places they could take a shot from. Myself I wouldn't want to do it with anything less than a 308 bolt gun. I would be willing to attempt it with a 270, 25-06, or 30-06 bolt gun from any of those places.

Thats the Scenerio that got the local law enforcement the ARs in the first place. As I said. It was a BAD choice in my opinion on the part of BEAN COUNTERS to buy JUST the ARs. The local town PD wanted additional budget for four 308 caliber bolt guns and training for four shooters for the guns. The bean counters decided that money was excessive, and cut the budget.

THATS what has me ticked off. SO please stop sending me arse chewings via phone and email.

Thanks

GoodOlBoy