[skeet]

Originally Posted by fabsroman

Alright, we shall go through this paragraph by paragraph. Now, you do realize that government regulation is all around us, correct. When you stop at a stop light at an intersection, that is government regulation. When you don't kill somebody or don't steal from somebody because of the criminal consequences, that is government regulation. I think the traffic system and criminal system is regulated pretty well, even though it could definitely use some tweaks here and there. The airline industry isn't regulated too badly either. Would you prefer that there be no government regulation of the airline industry and that you rely on Delta, American, or whatever other company for your safety, whose main goal is profit and keeping the company out of bankruptcy?

Since this is a hunting board, how about the government regulation of hunting. Do you think hunters by themselves would ensure the existence of a species? Do you think the guides on the Eastern Shore would have stopped hunting the Atlantic canada goose population without the government putting a moratorium on them? How about black ducks and canvasbacks? What do you think would have happened to them if there were no season limits or closed seasons on occasion? If market hunting hadn't been outlawed, do you think we would have the waterfowl populations that we have right now. Yeah, government regulation isn't working in that regard either. Let me know if you want me to continue providing examples of where government regulation has worked pretty well over the years.



Alright, I know not of what I speak. So, what you are telling me is that the Eastern Shore air sucked, and what is in Wyoming isn't that good either; however, we shouldn't worry about regulating this pollution, which is worse than I even thought according to your account of it Skeet. Of course, we can rely on the companies themselves to regulate this stuff and not pollute, isn't that correct. I'll give you a case study. Do some research on the Cuyahoga River in Ohio and compare it from the 60's to today. The reason it is so much better today is because of government regulation. Good Lord, just look at the Bay. If the government didn't step in with regulations, where do you think that would be. I'm not hooked on global warming, but I think we need to limit the amount of crap that gets spewed into the air. As far as India and China are concerned, there isn't much we can do about that. Now, do you lay awake at night wondering if your neighbor is recycling? I don't, but I make damn sure I do my part and recycle what I can and dispose of motor oil and other chemicals properly. I'm not a big fan of Cap & Trade, but I do think that carbon emission has to be regulated in some manner.



That statement was meant to mean it isn't looking good for the Democrats. However, I will agree that we need a lot of new blood in there, and that we need to do something about lobbying. Keep in mind though that the NRA is a pretty big lobby too. Can Congress actually get along without lobbyists, and I am not talking from a money perspective, but form a work perspective. Don't the lobbyists draft up most of the bills that eventually become law? Somebody help me out on this one because I am not completely sure. As far as term limits are concerned, I think that is fair, but I think 2 terms in Congress just isn't enough for a politician to get up to speed and get anything done. I would give them 4 terms with mandatory retirement after the term you reach 65 years of age.

Fabs of course I realize that we are regulated to death..I know it and so does most everybody else. But the driving rules are not regulations..They used to be but they had to criminalize them. You aren't old enough to remember but it was approx the 1970 era in Md. Why were regulations made into LAWS , you ask?? Lobbying by the trial lawyers assoc. Mo money Fabs...for the lawyers and the state. I even still have a copy here somewhere of the driving regulations of Md from about 1964.. Hunting regulations were also turned into the hunting laws. Why?? so they could criminalize many things..I also remember when game wardens did not carry guns..they didn't really need to for the most part..They also were not officers of the law..and in Md it is a bad thing to be able to carry a gun..unless you be the STATE POLICE..I worked too closely with the Police to respect everything they did. Some stuff they did was actually criminal...on their part. BUT they are the State Police...and better than the common citizen. Don't think so?? Sit in on some of their classes. They actually teach them that they are better..or they did. Fabs..we aren't talking every day regulation(laws?)..we are talking of the government in it's present form changing the actual makeup of this country..by regulation....by them just saying this is the way it's gonna be. I understand you are an officer of the court..but if you can't tell right from wrong as the average person can..then this country is in deep do-do..again. When someone asked one of the framers of the constitution what kind of government we had..he said...A republic..if you can keep it.. Well looks as though we are gonna finally lose the government the founding fathers gave us..

Now as far as lobbyists. Why do we need lobbyists? They write the laws..What are you saying my friend?? If they are writing the laws and you think that is fine..don't look for regulation from companies...unless it will affect their bottom line.It will also affect ours too ya know. To our detriment 2 terms for anyone. And no lobbyists NRA, company or any group. No professional politicians. In Europe they called them the aristocracy..Earls Dukes princes and Kings. This government was set up to make the common man the person who could control his own destiny..Sadly..it ain't that way now..and it's gonna get worse. Not dissing anyone Fabs...but ask a question of yourself..and any one else you may have a discussion on politics with. In the time of the American Revolution...would you have been a Patriot...or a Tory?? It was a tough question then...and getting to be just as tough now. I for one am tired of our "elected" aristocracy!