Well to be honest I have a couple of those 12K (or more) shotguns Do they shoot better than a Mossyberg?? Actually ..yes they do. Over the course of time. Have a Krieghoff that has in the neighborhood of 3/4 of a million shells through it. It is now worth 4 times what I paid and still good for another 3/4 million shells. Do that with your mossyberg! I really don't think so. Love to shoot shotguns..mainly doves and ducks..but clay birds will do in the off seasons. We have a BUNCH of those Collared doves here. No seasons no limits they stay all year and you can bait 'em too. And they eat ok.. Not 'nuff shotgun shooters here though. You probably couldn't get a really good dove shoot together up here...and the doves are here..till cold weather...about August 29th
But I do ok on ducks and the pheasants are ok..just too easy to hit..just a big ol chikin.
