[petey]

That's what I'm looking for gd. Thanks for the info. I figured a stout Partition or Barnes would be the best choice. Reloading of course, which is why I posted it here.

I'm not saying the Nosler BT won't work, and my current load puts 5 under 1/4" at 100 yards, but I think I want less of an "Explosive" bullet.

Yeah, they'll rip a hole in a coyote and take off a groundhog's head, but you may be able to retrieve just the base of the jacket when firing it into my sand box backstop.

I need a little weight retention here. Since I found my wonder pill for this gun probably more than 10 yrs ago, I've never really gone shopping for any other .22 cal bullets (other than V-MAX, but they are they same as the BT's)

As far as other guns I can start him out with, yeah I have plenty, but the stock is almost complete. Just need to do some final sanding, finishing, glass beding and start working up some new loads. I figured it the best choice compared to what he's already been shooting since Dec.

Turkey season, I cut down the stock on an old CVA single shot 20 gauge I had. Low brass and he was peppering the targets at 20-30 yards. I figured with the loads I had for him I'd keep the shots around 20 yards. He's hooked and has been talking about deer hunting since April. He's ready, stands are put together and need hung, he's got the gear and the right attitude (so does his dad) so now he just needs the perfect load and a lot of time behind the new gun to make dad confident in quick humane kills.