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i see where u r comeing from i have got things from flee markets econd hand shops and yard sales my self but around here guys go around and buy it up even if they dnt need it and paying a high price for it as for the guns the price on guns has sky rocketed cause people are buying them like crazy around here and as for the newbie thing im talking about a person that has shot along time and has owned guns and gave guns to relatives for free and loaned them guns and now that she is in a rut they dnt wanna help her not just a freind or a cousin but fathers and brothers and grandfathers
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