[bulletpusher]

My Bother-in-Law gave me a box of 20, .45 ACP Winchester Black Talons 230 grain way back when for Christmas I think.

I kept that box for about 6 months before I decided to see how they performed in my 1911A1. In the first magazine full that I tried 2 would not go off. I re-cocked the hammer 5 times on each of those 2 and it was no joy.

In the second magazine I had three more not go off even after repeated attempts at dropping the hammer on it.

That was 5 out of 14 rounds, I loaded the last six up and let go. I figured that 5 out of 14 was not good odds for a defensive cartridge. The last magazine of 6 I got 2 that didn't go off.

A brand new box of 20 cartridges designed for defensive use and 7 didn't go off. I took those 7 cartridges and through them as far out onto the shooting range as I could. I've seen two different problems with Winchester ammo in two different Calibers. I've not bought Winchester since.

Another time someone I worked with got a brand new 7mm Rem. Winchester M70 from her boyfriend. They were trying to sight it in with a brand new box of Winchester cartridges. I don't remember what type of bullet was in them but about the 5th or 6th round they fired was apparently a squib load, it had no powder. It had just enuff power from the magnum primer to push the bullet almost half way down the barrel. There was an accident waiting to happen. Thankfully they realized that something was wrong and didn't attempt to shoot again. The then sent it Winchester to have the bullet removed. That put me off of Winchester for good.

Did what happen mean that Winchester was not any good, no it does not, but it does means I will not trust my life or my hunting to Winchester.

Bulletpusher