jon lynn, are you saying that those of us that are shooting 22 rf versions of the AR15 are doing it because we don't have the real thing, as you refered to them as

retend AR 15s"? Well I and all the ones I know that are shooting the Colt version or the S&W MP1522RF have at least one or more "real ARs" some in multiple calibers. I'll admitt I just have one a Bushmaster in 5.56, but also shoot a S&W M&P 1522 and really enjoy it. The accuracy was really amazing to me, maybe the ultimate plinker. My grandsons love shooting it and I like the feature of not having to reload and the rf ammo is alot cheaper. Just put a red dot up on mine but haven't had a chance to sight it in, should make a great bunny rifle. No where on mine is the word tactical, just another black gun with the same set up and controls as my AR 15. Hopefully I misunderstood what you meant.