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I wasn't saying that the 870s have lot value.. they have gone down in price. The earlier Wingmasters were pretty good operating guns They were polished and some handwork done to make them smoother than the express guns are. You have to run about a 1000 shells through an express to get some real smoothness to them now....but once you get 'em shot a good bit they work just as well as the old ones...but much uglier..LOL When I tried my first 870 wayyy back yonder..even when they were pretty smooth..I thought..oh yuk..gimme my Model 12 back. I have an almost new 870 20 ga skeet gun from 1954 I think... It is nowhere near as smooth as any model 12 or Rem 31 but much better than the new 870 Express guns. Keep the old Wingmaster..You'll be glad you did