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Old..when you load them you will have to use a very short wad such as the Winchester Red field load wad. They have a very high base wad in them..and although they were Rems number 1 case at one time they were not very good..but better than Remingtons first plastic case..these were their first real plastic target case. I happen to have a couple hundred loaded up from years ago. They came in green and Blue(peters) chuck 'em if ya don't have some short wads
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