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Well after guiding for all those years.. i did learn the 3 inch shell could add about 3-5 yards to your longest rang shooting the 3 1/2 inch a bit more..but only if you are a good shotgun pointer...and good is not a subjective word. Most accomplished shotgunners will do very well with 2 3/4 inch loads.. After being involved in over 23,000 goose's demise's I found the average range on geese was approx 30 -32 yards...maybe less. The average shooter was NOT equipped to shoot 50 yard shots on a regular basis. As far as long shooting a lot in all those years I also found that the mag 10 was really worth having for those long pass shooting occassions. I still own an old Ithaca mag 10. I also feel the 3 1/2 inch 12 to be very overrated on waterfowl.. On turkeys it does add to any advantage...but for the most part they are standing shots.. The 3 inch shell is not necessary for upland hunting at all except maybe on driven pheasants