[fabsroman]

Gil,

Good luck. Just like anything, to fix a problem a person needs to admit that they have a problem. If after hitting 5 out of 75 clays, he does not think he has a problem, then there is nothing you can do for him. If he thinks it is the gun, he had better go get a professional to fit the gun to him.

All my guns are pretty much set up the same way. Granted, it helps to shoot only Benelli and Beretta with the adjustable shims.

I also don't believe in getting a new gun every year. Yeah, nice and shiny is wonderful, but tried and true is usually the way to go. Still shooting a 15 year old SBE for wing shooting and a 10 year old Beretta Teknys for a lot of clays.

Simply put, if he thinks it is the new gun and possibly the fit, suggest he see a professional gun fitter for it. If he really cared about hitting the target, he would want an answer to the 70 misses. Some people are just out there shooting and hunting for the comraderie, and could care less about 70 misses.