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As far as Manellis.. I have 3 or so..but not a 20 now anyway. Have an M-1 Super 90. Blue with black stock..and even if it has a bit more recoil than an gas gun..it IS reliable. A great late season cold weather gun. much better in cold than a gas gun.. Talkin 0 degrees and below. Super Black Eagle..3 1/2 inch gun and nebver used one a them long ones. Also reliable waterfowl hunting. The other is one of the pretty wood stock Montefeltro. Shoots ok..but it's gonna go. Berettas are ok guns. Have a 390 and a 391. The 390 is an easier on the shoulder gun and pretty reliable. The 391 I have shot at skeet and the few rounds of Sporting I shoot..Shoots fine but has a bit more recoil than my 1100s. I do have to clean my 1100s every half case or 300 shells or so. Berettas I clean about every case..Oh a case to me is still 500 shells. I will also agree with Ed..Benelli is surely over priced...but so are the Berettas. I picked up a like new 11-87 Premier the other day for 325 bucks..Shotguns really do not go as highly priced here as they do in other areas. Unfortunately I only got 2 chokes with the gun...but I probably have 50 Rem Chokes round here.. I also got a light Contour 11-87 3 inch barrel for 90 bucks..one choke. Put it on an older 1100. Yeah.. I know. They aren't supposed to fit 1100s. But they will and work just fine. Snowin..had about 4 inches so far. Only got down to 6 degrees last night. 6 below night before..