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Old 12-05-2004, 09:06 AM
danny pay danny pay is offline
 
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222 rem loading with win 64 gr?

Hi
I want to load some winchester 64 gr .224bullets for my 222 remington Brno fox and my son's Tikka ,but I can't find any data in reloading books!! this load shall be used for deer hunting( scandinavian roe bucks are half big as north american deers) . if you have tried this combination and have som good reloading data, please share it with me-
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danny
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Old 12-05-2004, 09:45 AM
Mike Moss Mike Moss is offline
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There is data for a 62 gr bullet at http://www.norma.cc/nladdtab/222rem.htm

Also some 69 gr loads at http://www.loadyourown.com/loaddata/sresults.asp

More data at http://www.stevespages.com/224_5_63.html

As one can see roe deer are not quite as large as some whitetail deer http://www.geocities.com/magicgoatman/roedeer.html

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Old 12-05-2004, 07:56 PM
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Danny,
I wouldn`t get carried away loading up a bunch of 69 grn. bullerts for the .222. I doubt that you will get any accuracy from them as most of the .222`s have a 1 in 14 twist rate and it will usually take a 1 in 9 twist rate to stablize them. You will usually get your best accuracy in the .222 with 50 grn. bullets, unless you have a special twist in your gun.
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Old 12-06-2004, 03:59 AM
Cal Sibley Cal Sibley is offline
 
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I share Catfish's view. What is the twist in your .222Rem.? Mine is a Remington 40XBBR with a 1 in 14" twist, and it just simply isn't that accurate with any load above 55gr. in bullet weight. You'll require a much faster twist to shoot the heavier bullets. Best wishes.

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Old 12-11-2004, 07:34 AM
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Catfish is right! I had a Rem. 722 in .222 which I rechambered to .223. The 1/14" twist would not permit any accuracy with long pointed bullets over 55 grains, and this includes the old NATO ball round that uses a 55-grain spitzer boattail. However, it did shoot the Speer semi-spitzer 70 grain softpoint bullet, which is shorter, with acceptable accuracy. You'd find that Speer 70 grainer OK for Rehbock!
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Old 12-26-2004, 05:20 AM
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222r

Hi guys
Merry christmas to you.
as we know 1/14 is too slow for 55 gr+,but which twist rate should i choose for a new barrel for my brno ? i want it too shoot factory loads 50-55 gr and as well as handloads upp to 70 gr. would a 1/12 twist be a good choice? or should i go to 1/10?
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danny
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Old 12-26-2004, 08:59 PM
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Danny,

They say it's the length of the bullet and not it's weight that's the limit for a twist. If you already have the 64 gr Win bullets then give them a try.

The 63 gr Sierra would stabilize in an old 222.

Don't rebarrel the rifle just to shoot a big game bullet out of a small varmint rifle. Either use the 222 for pests as it is or sell it and get a bigger gun.
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Old 12-30-2004, 04:16 PM
eldeguello eldeguello is offline
 
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Danny, if you have a 1/14" twist, as MOST .222 Rems do, any bullet the length of the NATO G.I. 55-grain ball is too long to be stabilized. If you want to shoot Rehbock with a .222, use a 53 or 55-grain FLATBASE Barnes X bullet or Speer 70-grain Even the 60 grain Nosler Partition and the 64-grain Winchester are too long. I know. I tried to shoot them in a 1/14" twist .222 barrel that had been rechambered to .223 Rem. Despite the higher velocities produced by the .223 case, accuracy was poor -a lot of tumbling. Actually, the 70-grain Speer semipointed flatbased bullet shot better in the 1/14" twist. And it will kill deer, since that's what it was designed for.
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Old 01-09-2005, 01:21 AM
earschplitinloudenboomer earschplitinloudenboomer is offline
 
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.222 heavier bullets

danny pay;

...load a few rounds with the bullets you have. Had a Savage 340
in .222 (1 in 14 twist) that shot the Rem. factory 63 gr. great!!

...Ball C 2 is a good .222 powder. Start at about 21 gr. and work up carefully.
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Old 07-28-2005, 08:45 PM
scooterman27006 scooterman27006 is offline
 
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can someone tell me how a 55 gr works in a 222 and im sure its 1 in 14 cause its a plain jane 222 rem 700 adl - this is the only gr bullet i have in 22 but if suggested i will get some smaller 22 - i am going to try two loads with it to start with unless you say the 55 are too long - i am using factory winchester brass and winchester primers - first powder and load will be 748 with 24 gr and the nosler 55 bt and the second will be h322 - 22 gr with same 55 gr noslers - i will try these unless told otherwise and if you think i should give benchrest primers a try i will or if i should change my powder amounts - really any suggestions would be great especially if you are shooting a 700 - i am getting my info out of noslers latest book and that h 322 was the most accurate tried in the book if that means anything - thanks scoot
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