.223 Remington

model 70 · #1 09-21-2005, 12:08 AM

Got my next gun picked out. Looking for something light, easy to handle, fun to shoot, good for plinking, coyotes, bobcats, foxes, and making jackrabbits go POP. I don't handload so ammo has got to be cheap and have a wide selection.

I've settled on a .223rem topped with a nice scope. Maybe stainless/synthetic, maybe wood. Not too important.

Soooooo, what would the best barrel length be to look for? rate of twist? should I go with a classic 3x9 leo or something with a bit more magnifictaion?

I liked to call and glass clear-cuts and old burns for yotes, bobcats and foxes aswell as rabbits. Shot can range from 5 yards to waaaaaaaaaaaay out there

. Before anyone suggests a bigger boomer, cost is low with the .223 ammo. Plus, we already have a heavy barreled varmint rig in .22-250 that belongs to my father. Hardly a carry gun, which is what I want. Thanks.

Evan03 · #2 09-21-2005, 12:46 AM

did i call it or what.

drumb role please

id say any standerd bolt action in 223. the 223 in my opion is perfect as carry varmiter thatl reach to 300yds and beyond

im fond of walnut rugers. but the list goes on and on in what you can get and you can get it for under 500 bucks. even some under 400

22" barrel is great for its intended purpose.

if you wanted to spend alittle exstra the 223 rem light weight varmit rig would work wonders.

ruger rem win howa savage. the list goes on and on

im glad you finaly came around.

keep your eyes peeled 223s are common on the used gun racks and most all barrels wont ever have been shot out.

good choice

Evan

3-9 x40 would be great, but i alwasy seem to want more on varmit rig, ive found leupolds 4.5-14 to be a great all arounder.
even 4-12 would be just as good might even swing for a 6-18 leo. its all up to you.

model 70 · #3 09-21-2005, 07:35 AM

LOL! well, while it's true i do little varminting i just wanted a plinking gun i could reach way out there with and would be cheap to shoot. heck, i'm still debating on this or a .44rem mag carbine.

so...how's that .270 workin' out for ya?

don't forget to dust the cobwebbs off the 25/06. folks might think you came over to my side,

rem 700 · #4 09-21-2005, 08:49 AM

Barrel length from 22 inches to 26 inches: 20 if you want something real light to carry. Twist rate of 1:9inches. 3-9x is fine, but a 223 can go to 1000 yards, so you might want a 4-12/4.5-14x.

model 70 · #5 09-21-2005, 09:09 AM

i believe i saw a model 7 with a twist rate of 1:12". how come remington has such a hight rate of twist? is the better/worse for the .223?

Rocky Raab · #6 09-21-2005, 10:01 AM

That 1-12 twsit is actually considered a bit slow today. It was the original twist rate, good for standard core/jacket bullets up to 55 grains.

Then the military decided it wanted to go to a longer, penetrating core 62-grainer, and the 1-12 wasn't quite steep enough to stabilize the new bullet. So the new military standard is 1-9.

Civilian versions of the .223 (they are NOT quite the same as the military 5.56) also started out as 1-12, but when the guns started being used in target competition, longer heavier bullets became popular. Again the twist rate got sped up. First it was 1-9, then 1-8 and I've even seen a few that were 1-7" They're shooting 80 grain bullets that look like #2 pencils in some of those things!

Most varmint rigs will be just fine with a 1-12 twist. I find that 50-gr bullets are about optimum as a varminting/fun bullet anyway, and 55s are the most common in "generic" loads.

Don't overlook the Browning Micro Hunter as your rifle. They cost a bit more than the others, but they are sure worth it. My second choice would be a Howa or a Weatherby Vanguard (actually the same gun) for a bit less in both expense and quality but a bit more weight. I do love the new Savage Accu-Trigger, but their guns are a tad bulky.

Evan03 · #7 09-21-2005, 07:26 PM

havent touched the 270

im wating on a trigger gaurd i orderd for it. i wont shoot it without the trigger gaurd. suposebly the adl trigger gaurds arent being produced anywhere. found that out yesterday when i went into the gunshop thinking id pick the parts up.

next best thing looks to be used ebay parts or get the bdl floor plate for 90 bucks.

the 270win will never see as much use as my other smaller rifles. its just not near as much fun or versitile as the 2506 and doesnt have the redmist like the 220 and 22/250

if i dont get parts for the 270 soon it may be on the bebch for this hunting season all together.
that leaves the 2506 and 3006 and the main rigs for me and my freind to use.

Evan

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