Quick question about Cynergy..help!

[Bobshouse]

Does anyone know if the Cynergy has a hole in the stock under the recoil pad to where a person could insert a C&H mercury recoil reducer?

Appreciate the help!

Bob

[skeet]

There should be a stock bolt hole that you can put a reducer in. If not one can be easily drilled in the butt. You just have to be careful when you drill. Some of the stock bolt holes may be a little small...but it can even be made larger. Those Brownings really do get your attention...specially if you aren't numb from the neck up

[tjwatty]

Next question. I was wondering why you would need a recoil reducer in a gun they advertize as designed to reduce recoil?
I haven't shot one and I'm not sold on the mechanics yet but they do have a nice feel.

P.S. Until the Italians steal the design fabs won't like them anyway.
LOL LOL LOL

[fabsroman]

TJ,

I was biting my tongue trying not to reply to this thing, but then there was your post.

I won't buy another Browning unless they are owned by Beretta and made in one of the Beretta factories. Quality control and craftsmanship might be somewhat decent at that point. Of course, customer service would be a lot better just by Beretta owning Browning.

Beretta would probably never end up owning Browning, but that is fine with me too because I am really happy with my Beretta guns and the ones that I had problems with were taken care of by Beretta.

As far as the recoil reducer in the stock is concerned on the Browning, the easiest way to see the size of the bolt hole in the stock is to take the recoil pad off, which in the newer Berettas merely requires the pull of a lever. I have no idea how to take the recoil pad off the Cynergy, but if it is like the older recoil pads, it will be held on by two screws.

[Bobshouse]

Im pretty sure it would be easy to take off the buttpad and look if I had the gun...but I dont..the mailman does! It should be delivered on the 1st of November...then the 10 day waiting period required by good'ol California...

Most people are saying that the Cynergy doesnt need a recoil reducer, going to give it a few shots before I do anything, also depends on the balance of the gun, dont want to throw it off.

Looked at Beretta's before I made the leap, nothing really impressed me. We've had Brownings for 3 generations in my family, guess Ill continue the tradition. Funny thing is, not one of them ever needed any repairs, been shooters since my grandfather got his!

Bob

[fabsroman]

You should come and see my Citori. If you shoot any gun enough, it will need repairs, with the exception of maybe Skeet's magical Krieghoff. Now, if you have had Brownings for 3 generations and they are such great guns, why not just shoot your grandfather's?

Speaking of Krieghoffs, I was looking at their site the other day and there are a couple that I could live with. LOL Just not the price tag right now.

[6.5s4ever]

Hey Fabs! What do you mean if you shoot them enough they will always need repairs! As in Beretta is infallible? I dont think so, not if properly cared for. My Browning Citori Plus Trap Gun has thousands upon thousands of rounds through it and knock on wood I have never had to replace a spring, firing pin, ejector, Nada nothing and it is stiil very tight.Lever still to the right of center. Now I do take meticulous care of it but believe me it gets used a lot! Regards Roy Not only that the price I can resell that gun for in it present condition is not much less than what it cost when new!over 12 years ago. Now My KS-5 Krieghoff, that is built like a Bank Vault!!!

[fabsroman]

6.5's,

I don't care how well you take care of a gun, it will still wear out if you shoot it enough. Regardless of wether it is a Browning, Benelli, Beretta, Krieghoff, or whatever. After I had problems with my Citori, a friend of mine decided to buy a Browning BT-99 trap gun and he wore that thing out in a couple of years. Granted, he doesn't take good care of his guns. The last time I shot with him, his Perazzi was almost completely black and he was just spraying it down with brake cleaner and wiping it off to clean it. However, he swears by that gun and has been shooting it for more years than he shot the Browning BT-99. My uncle has a cousin in Italy that hunts in the rain with a Benelli auto, throws it in the closet afterward without cleaning it, and he continues to swear by the gun, not at it, like I do with the Citori. If I shot the Citori even in the dry and threw it in the closet, the barrels would have so much rust inside them it wouldn't be funny. Sometimes, the barrels on the Citori rust just because there is moisture in the air and I have 3 pretty decent dessicants (sp.) in the safe. Another friend bought one of Brownings GTI sporting clays guns and threw it in the case after shooting. The next morning I thought he was either going to start crying or drop dead when he saw rust all over the exterior. I have hunted with my Benelli SBE in the rain, snow, mud, and whatever else Mother Nature has thrown my way, usually I try to clean it as soon as I get home, but that doesn't always happen. I've been hunting with this gun like this for 8 seasons and the only rust it has on it is 2 small specks that are hardly visible once I take some Hoppes to it. My beef with Browning is more with their customer service department, but that stems from 10+ years ago. Maybe they are better now, but I live by "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." I just hate feeling shameful or shammed.

I have had an issue with some of the nickel plating coming off of a Beretta 682 GoldE, but Beretta replaced the entire gun since it was a manufacturing defect and I had another issue with the finish coming off my 391 Teknys and Beretta replaced the entire stock with some really nice wood. It probably helped that I had 7 Berettas in the safe.

As far as thousands of rounds are concerned, I think almost every shotgun I own, with the exception of my 391 Teknys 20 ga and my 20 ga. youth model, has thousands and thousands of rounds through them. A couple of years ago, I wouldn't go to the clays range with less than 10 boxes of shells and I usually wouldn't leave until I burned them all up, and I was going about twice a week. Over the last year, with work, the remodel and the wedding, I didn't have as much time, but that is starting to change. All of my guns are still tight, granted not so tight that I stuggle to open them, but tight enough that I do not worry about replacing them any time soon. Like you, I have not has a single thing break on any of my guns either. Knock on wood. Something tells me that Skeet might have broken a couple of firing pins over his lifetime with the amount of rounds he shoots. I thought I was nit picky (would have used another word but this is a family site), but the man actually keeps track of the number of rounds he shoots every year and it is a lot.

I also agree about the Krieghoffs. If I was wealthy like you guys, I would have one or two, maybe even three of them, but I'll have to wait to win the lottery.

[skeet]

Actually ...all guns need occassional work. Never broke a firing pin on any gun...I have replaced quite a few on others guns. On my various Krieghoffs...since 1985 I have had a trigger spring on one gun break(in the middle of the 28 ga at the World Championships.. Fixed in 5 mins by the Krieghoff people) and the present gun I have had an axle break last year at a shoot. Got it working (somehow) and eventually had it replaced 5 months later.. and at the last service the Krieghoff smith said I should replace the cocking rods in another year or two. As to Brownings..I have a friend who shoots a Special Sporting at everything. In fact he has 2 of the same guns. He finally broke down last year and sent the 1st gun back to Browning and had it gone over and tightened up. But he told me he had shot over 90,000 shells in it himself....and he was the 2nd owner. Another friend has a 682 and he has shot in excess of 1/4 million rounds through it. Had it redone at 180,000 shells and it is still going strong..other than a coupel broken springs. The Krieghoff I am shooting now has had in excess of 160,000 shells through it since I have owned it...and I am the second owner. .

Have been thinking of buying a KS-5..or a K-80 Combo with an unsingle bbl just to waste shellls on trap with.. How do you like yours 6.5s?? If not one of them I have my eye on a (gag) Browning BT-99 (gag). But it is CHEAP!!

[6.5s4ever]

Hi Skeet !, To answer your question for singles in Trap my KS-5 is my favorite. It is heavy enough that it absorbs most of the recoil and swings through smoothly but it is not too heavy. I use my Citori Plus for Doubles but for handicap and singles targets The KS-5 works best for me. They are built like a brick house also.But simple to maintain and service. Breakemall! Roy

[Bobshouse]

Originally posted by fabsroman
Now, if you have had Brownings for 3 generations and they are such great guns, why not just shoot your grandfather's?

It's a Browning Sweet 16 and Im scared to death I'd break the forearm. I've read post after post of forearms breaking on the old Sweet 16's. I guess its the modern day powders, they burn so much faster than the old paper shells, causing the barrel to slam back faster and harder.


Anyways, finally got the Cynergy and it shoots great. No need for the recoil reducer. Thanks for the help!