Reloading Supplies

[Steverino]

Good morning folks,

Over the weekend I went on-line to Midway to look at picking up some reloading supplies and was surprised to see just how many types of both bulk brass and bullets that it was 'out of stock' on.

Do you think that folks are stocking up on what could be a potentially Draconian period for firearm owners should Obama be appointed king with a Democrap congress to toe the party line?

Would also appreciate any good sources that some of you may have for good brass (slightly used is okay if they are clean) and bullets. (Rifle +pistol) I guess I may as well ask for sources for primers and powder too since we're here talkin' about this stuff, right?



As always, thanks!

[Jack]

Steverino, I suspect that the high price of anything metal lately is more the culprit.
If Midway doesn't have what you need, try Natchez, Midsouth, or Graf and Sons. All are reloading supply houses similar to Midway with reliable reputations.

[Steverino]

It wasn't so much the high prices Jack, which I understand. What had surprised me was the amount of product on back-order period. (bulk brass and bullets)

With the higher material prices, one may speculate that there might be more available, right?

Thank you for you response BTW!

[Adam Helmer]

Steverino,

Many savvy folks have been stocking up over the last year.

If it all goes wrong tomorrow, you still have until January 20th to get stocked up, Big Time!

Adam

[GoodOlBoy]

Yep and if it goes wrong tomorrow, expect prices and demand to go even more insane than it already is.

GoodOlBoy

[Steverino]

I kinda figured as much-

I stopped by Cabelas yesterday evening and you would swear that they were giving ammunitions and metalic components away judging by the frenzy in the shooting department. The prices were a little higher than what I had seen at sites online (Midway, Graf, & Natchez) but I figured that even with local taxes, by the time I added up shipping costs on the material (most notably bullets), it came out to about the same.

I also got into this thing rather late at the eleventh hour here-just the way that things worked out.

I ended up with Remington brass in my cartridge flavors-everyone seems to be picked clean on the Winchester brass. Is this considered among the best of the bulk brass?

Anyhow, I have basically what I need to get started at least and am guessing (hoping ) that should the Democraps sweep today, the effects will be incremetalized over time rather than the appointment of Feinstein or Schumer as Attorney General-which could make some sweeping changes rather quickly.

God help us all!

[TKO]

I have talked with a couple of guys that go to the gunshows and sell bulk ammo, they can not haul enough ammo to the shows, sold out in the first few hours of each show, qualty self defense handguns seem to be selling fast as well, is this what Oboma ment when he said he would get the economy started?

[Pre-64]

Was just at the gun shop today and was talking reloading with the owner. I was informed that shipments from Hornady are all but no existent, Marlin on the firearm end is the same way. Was told if I need components for reloading to BUY THEM NOW! I'm on the East coast and my dealer told me he was at his supplier Yesterday. Apparently the supplier was contacted from a dealer out west with an offer to buy all the ammo that was in stock. What is going on? I would hate to think that at the change of a Presidency the public is starting to be systematically disarmed.

[Rocky Raab]

It's hoarding, plain and simple. I read on other websites where people are bragging about having 75,000 primers on hand, and STILL waiting on the loading dock to buy all the primers that get delivered to a store, before they even get inside the store.

Hoarding is contemptible. The poor guy who needs a few hundred or a thousand primers (or anything else) to get by is screwed, while these hoarding morons have enough to supply their grandkids for life.

It ticks me off enough that if reloading is made illegal (and I do NOT want that, but IF it is...) that those hoarders get charged one count for every package of primers or powder they have squirreled away. Let them rot for as long as their "inventory" would have lasted.

[Mr. 16 gauge]

O.K., so what is the difference between "hoarding" and "stocking up"? I understand what Rocky is saying, but I bought 2000 primers yesterday (1000 large rifle & 1000 small pistol).....I didn't really 'need' them, as I spent most of the winter reloading every case I had, but since I can't find them anywhere (or bullets....or powder), I figured I better buy them or when I really need them, I won't be able to find them.
Does that make me a 'hoarder" and part of the problem? I don't want to be without......
Man, it's gonna be a LONG 4 years...........

[Pre-64]

I am not answering for Rocky on this but I believe that 2000 primers is not the point. However 75,000 on hand and waiting for the truck to show to pack away as many more as your deep pockets will allow is another thing. The simple rule of supply and demand will, and from what I have seen, has taken a drastic choke hold on our hobby. Just out of curiosity yesterday, I looked down at a box of Remington .270 Core-lokt's. That same box not so long ago was $9.99 at your local chain super store and was sitting there for the low price of $23.95. I do not know how to take all these Emails that have been circulating lately about ammunition taxes, Rounds to be sent out with serial numbers on them and my personal favorite, By all the guns you want for without ammunition they will be useless, but something is happening! I only pray that if hording is the problem they store those components in a low lying area and by the grace of God they get flooded. Then let them reap what they have sewn, 1000 primers for $30.00 instead of $13.00 (When available of course)

[Catfish]

I have been known to buy 15 to 20,000 primers at a time, but that has been several years back and I was paying less for 5,000 primers than what 2,000 is selling for today. Right know I am very low on primers and there are some bullets I need, but as long as prices are so high I won`t buy anything untill I have to have it and with the amount of ammo I have on hand and by switching guns I can hold off for quite a while yet. I don`t see any thing wrong with hoarding, if you can buy the stuff cheap, but only a fool would hoard at these prices. At least that`s the way I see it.

[buckhunter]

The problem is that there is very little in the stores now. I cannot find Hornady 180 gr round nose bullets. The place I usually buy them from has had them on order since Dec. Same goes with 140 - 7mm Hornady's. If I see em I buy em. I have been building up my supply of 9mm ammo. I don't have 1000 rounds yet but it is getting there. I will stop at some point. I have a few thousand primers and that's enough for me.

I would guess that we should see the pipe line fill up shortly. I believe metal prices are coming down plus with the pullout of Iraq the demand will decrease although increase in the other hot spot mgiht effect it.

[Rocky Raab]

The pipeline, believe it or not IS full. They're making it at 100% round-the-clock capacity. It isn't making it to the store shelves because of hoarders buying first. What is hoarding?

My own definition is this: if you have more than a two-year supply at your usual shooting rate, and you are still buying, you are a hoarder.

Hoarding is contemptible because it keeps anybody but the hoarder from having any supply. There isn't an infinite supply, and they don't create components with a magic wand. The guy who needs a few hundred primers to prepare for a once-in-a-lifetime hunt can't get any because some self-centered bastid bought yet another full shipment of them to squirrel away.

In my opinion, components ought to sold at a daily, per-person limit until the supply stabilizes. Everybody would get a chance to have at least some, and the stores would still sell all they get. Everybody but the hoarders would win, and hoarders deserve the same medicine they've been doling out to everybody else.

[Contenderizer]

Originally Posted by Rocky Raab

What is hoarding?

My own definition is this: if you have more than a two-year supply at your usual shooting rate, and you are still buying, you are a hoarder.

Rocko, Does this apply to golf balls too?