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06-16-2010, 05:01 PM
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3,500 Acres of US unsafe for US Citizens
"About 3,500 acres of southern Arizona have been closed off to U.S. citizens due to increased violence at the U.S.-Mexico border, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. The closed off area includes part of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge that stretches along the U.S.-Mexico border."
Fox News Excuse me, but the US government can not secure its borders and has blocked US Citizens access to part of the United states, allowing Mexican criminals to take over 3,500 acres of our contry? FTF, Over! O'Bama just pack your bag buddy you are outa here. This is way too much. The cops asked for 3,000 troops to bring the area under control, got nada.
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06-16-2010, 05:43 PM
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I wonder?
 Why does our government REFUSE to do nything about the border situation? That JACHASS in the White House can send the national Guard to Iraq, Afghanistan, the gulf coast yet that igmoramous completely ignores the border where at least one American CITIZEN has been murdered in a way that made national headlines. The fact of the matter is there have been others murdered by parties unknown over the years. I know of at least three, two of which were bowhunters during bow season for deer. The third person was the boss of my next door neighbor. I should say four because both he and his wife were found shot to death in their tent while camping. Their truck was later found across the border in Mexico. According to my neighbor, the man and his wife were good people. Makes me wonder just how many people that have gone missing and never found in the remote parts of Arizona, New Mexico and Texas deserts were murder victims of the smugglers. This crap is nothing new. My neighbor's boss and hs wife were killed back in IIRC 1982, give or take a year.I personally have been shot at while peacably fishing on Pena Blanca lake which is about two miles from the Mexican Border. That was over 6 years ago. That stuff is nothing new although lately it seems to have escalated exponentially. I wouldn't be too surprised if some individuals weren't planning to take matters into their own hands to clean up the mess. Of course, if that were to happen, Obama and the liberals woild send the ntional Guard down in one hell of a hurry, not to protect the border but to round up all those "racists' shooting those poor drug smugglers who are only trying to make a living.   I can no longer go deer or coyote hunting in a couple of my favorite areas (#32 and #33)without worrying whether I might be murdered in my sleep. I'm pizzed! Paul B.
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06-16-2010, 07:30 PM
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Paul,
The minute I read that I thought about you. I mean this is just stupid beyond words. What do you think would happen if Teddy R were in the White house now? There would be dead bad guys strung out all over Ariziona and Mexico. Ed
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06-16-2010, 10:07 PM
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Eventually it will come down to people. People, no politicians, built this country. People, not police, protect themselves and their loved ones. People, not words laws and platitudes, will eventually take this country back.
GoodOlBoy
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06-17-2010, 05:19 PM
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GoodOlBoy
AMEN!
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06-17-2010, 05:48 PM
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I think that things will start to change this summer/fall.
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Rapier. We all know what would happen if old Teddy was in charge. It would get taken care of. It would get taken care of now with a lot of volunteers from all over the country with out nobama having to send any troops.
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06-17-2010, 07:15 PM
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Yep
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Rapier. We all know what would happen if old Teddy was in charge. It would get taken care of. It would get taken care of now with a lot of volunteers from all over the country with out nobama having to send any troops.[/QUOTE] I'll volunteer!!
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06-17-2010, 11:25 PM
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Don't forget one of the main reasons we are in this pickle is because oblamea is slick. Remeber we had record turn outs of first time minority voters, first time young voters, and first time immigrant voters. I heard with my own ears the bs slogans they were passing even in Texas. One moron in particular stood outside the local wal-mart screaming "We are going to vote Bush out of office! No third term for Bush!" No matter how many times somebody tried to calmly tell this joker Presidents can't serve more than two terms he would go back to screaming the same thing over and over. He was getting very low income and low education minorities and imigrants, and first time young voters to sign up to vote democrate. By the way the ones that wanted to sign up to vote but told him they were voting against obama got turned away. It was a minor scandal at best.
Slick is as slick does. GoodOlBoy
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(Moderator - Gear & Gadgets, Cowboy Action, SouthWest Regional, Small Game) GoodOlBoy@huntchat.com For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - John 3:16 KJV Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. - Ecclesiastes 8:15 KJV "The gun has been called the great equalizer, meaning that a small person with a gun is equal to a large person, but it is a great equalizer in another way, too. It insures that the people are the equal of their government whenever that government forgets that it is servant and not master of the governed." - 40th President of the United States Ronald Reagan 1911-2004
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06-18-2010, 07:12 AM
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This is going to sound far fetched to you, but the real change occours at your city and county levels. Do not just vote for people that other keep picking for you to vote for. Go find a good man or woman, talk to them, get them to run for election and support them with your time and effort, not just a check. Get the lawyers and professional politicians out of our city halls, county commission and state houses. Put real people back in office. Never vote for a lawyer for any office, unless you have to, they are professional liars.
Yes vote for the best people come this November, but do not let this stop there. We need to clean house, we need to scrub the floors with lye soap to get the stench out, starting with our own community! Your neighbors are begging for real people to elect and so are you, go find them yourself. Ed
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06-22-2010, 11:52 PM
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I can say the same thing for most of the professions out there. Most people in society are freaking liars. I wonder how many people actually get stopped by the police and answer all the questions truthfully or decline to answer questions because they do not want to lie and incriminate themselves. Yeah, it is only the attorneys. More like the attorney's clients that are the liars. I have had clients lie on the stand and I have had witnesses and opposing parties lie on the stand. But hey, the lack or honesty and responsibility issue is an attorney issue, not a society issue. Ultimately, attorneys advise their clients on what the law is and what the clients' options are. It is up to the clients to decide what action they want to take.
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The pond, waterfowl, and yellow labs...it don't get any better.
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06-23-2010, 01:44 AM
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06-23-2010, 01:56 AM
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Under your reasoning, ANY lawyer elected to ANY legislative position would have a potential conflict of interest because WHATEVER law gets passed needs to be interpreted, applied, and possibly litigated. You used tax law as an example, but what about criminal laws, construction laws, patent laws, copyright laws, etc. They are all LAWS that lawyers deal with daily. Then, even assuming that we do away with lawyers in legislatures, what are we going to do with elected law enforcement officers, elected construciton workers, etc. when their field comes up? What about the issue of electing older folks since we have an issue with health care and social security. Wouldn't that be a conflict of interest for them too? What happens if we elect a bunch of young people that decide to do away with social security because they will never receive it, isn't that a conflict of interest too. Ultimately, our politicians should do what we the people want them to do, regardless of the conflict. I don't think Congress wants to make the tax code any more onerous than it is, but it just isn't easy to cut it down right now without going to a straight flat tax and that would only last a year before special exceptions are applied to provide incentive to do things like save for retirement, purchase a home, make homes more energy efficient, etc. Plus, how would a bunch of construction workers even pass laws? They can hardly read the current laws as it is. Who would draft up the new laws for them. Don't tell me they would need to hire attorneys to draft those new laws and put their ideas into legal statutes. Now, as far as feeling like you didn't keep your nose clean because you need the services of a lawyer, that just isn't always true. Just recently, I have had a couple of clients pass away without wills, and the assets didn't go quite the way the surviving spouse had thought they would. Yeah, they kept their nose clean during their lifetime until one of them passed away. Then, without having received any advice from an attorney during their lifetime, the surviving spouse is up a creek with a dirty nose that he/she didn't receive from an attorney. Same goes for start up businesses. How smart is it to start a business without getting the advise of an attorney? I'm not saying it should never be done, but before taking out a 2nd mortgage on a home to start this business, don't you think a little legal advise might be in order. Think of it like preventative medicine.
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The pond, waterfowl, and yellow labs...it don't get any better.
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06-23-2010, 02:06 AM
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Fabs..
They came here illegally..your parents didn't..Why should illegals have the vote?? Even if they are made legal..And it seems as though you don't get it..It's a point to be made..it ain't just dollars and cents..I'm sorry the immigrant issue is so close to you..but legal and illegal are two different things. If they are well to do what are they wanting to come here for?? Why reward illegal activity..There are hundreds of thousands of people who try to get here legally and we are going to reward illegals?? Fabs..you just don't get it. I hate to disillusion you so badly..but sometimes the issues should only be black and white with NO gray areas.. But gray areas are an attorney's life blood and I know it as well as you do..so you will always try to skirt the black/ white and get gray. As far as Obama's policies..With the way he has tried to sell this country down the river..I will never compromise with him or his policies. I don't know how any true America citizen ever could.
And as far as your next post cause I know it'll be there... I don't think any attorney should ever vote for or against a law that may affect his future work. We had many legislators in the past who were not attorneys and they helped write some of the laws of this land. Don't forget just because a person is a butcher baker candlestick maker...doesn't necessarily mean he is an idiot..It seems as though that being an attorney is on the job training for legislator/Polictician NOW..all that being said..GO TO BED..its 2 in the mornin...there. That's where I'm goin and it's only midnight here.
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06-18-2010, 12:16 PM
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Recently Public Radio reported that Obma is sending 17,000 national guard troops to help clean up the beaches affected by the oil spill. He could only send 1200 to help secure the border. Lets you know that he feels the border situation is not really a problem; it is just a few americans being killed by who knows what. Maybe it is some of the missing Afgani pilot trainees.
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06-18-2010, 02:36 PM
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I live fairly close to the border as you all know and I have Border patrol buddies I sometimes shoot with. What they tell me is frightening. In the last 6 months, they have apprehended over 200 non-Latino types from the Middle East.
 Makes you wonder how many got through? A Latino pays roughly $2,500 to $3,000 to be smuggled in while these Middle Easterners are paying from $6,500 to $10,000 to get into the U.S. of A. Of course, I'm sure those peace loving Middle Easterners are only here to earn a better living that what they could back home. Right? Now, I see that the HAG Clinton let the cat out of the bag that Obama and crew are going to sue Arizona to stop 1070B. So much for states rights. I wonder if out communist-in-chief is going to send her to Siberia, or at lest it's equivilent here? When do WE THE PEOPLE take our country back? Can WE THE PEOPLE take our counrty back? Do THEY THE SHEEPLE even give a damn? Methinks it's getting close to Concord at the border. Paul B.
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