moa - i hate to ask but

[BILLY D.]

SAY WHAT!!!!

[Evan03]

saaaaaay whaaaaaaaat

[Rocky Raab]

Well, guys, I've hunted with Evan. A fine lad. He's a truly practical hunter and shooter who doesn't get all wrapped around the axle with high falootin' technical talk.

He just shoots and hits things.

He'd care about MOA if it was a sandwich or a predator call. But while you and I are talking about how many quarter-minute clicks to dial in for the wind, he'd already be recovering from the recoil - and he'd have hit the thing.

You know what? That's not a thing wrong with that approach!

[MarkL]

Originally posted by Evan03
that being the case then all of us could shoot 8" groups at 800yds easily. just because rifle and shooter can shoot 1" 100yd groups doesnt mean they can hold MOA to exstended ranges

I'd have to say I agree with you and that I probably oversimplified things a bit. At long ranges, things like wind have a much greater affect on group size than they do at short ranges, so it is harder to shoot a given MOA at long range.

[Cossack]

Sounds like your 224/30 group was about like mine when I mistakenly shot 17 HMR's in my 22WMR! I couldn't find a hole from which to start scope adjustment....at 30 yards!

[Rocky Raab]

Yup, just like that. I had several of them miss a 2x4 foot target at 50 yards.

[wildworks]

here is some math for you all!

MOA= 1.0476" @ 100yrds thus MOA = 10.476" @ 1000yards

1 moa click = .2619" @ 100 and 2.619" @ 1000

to figure MOA is at any given distance :

.000291x(distance in Yrds)x 36 = moa

Ex: .000291X1450yrdsX36= 15.1902" =1 MOA @1450yrds


say my ball. calculator. says my gun needs 37 moa to acheive this range this just tells me that the bullet drop = 37x15.1902= 562.0374"

just fun stuff to play with

[Rocky Raab]

Shouldn't that be 1/4 MOA click is .2619 at 100 yds?

Also, if you have two constants (.000291 and 36) in your equation, you can simply pre-multiply them. The result, of course, is .010476. So range times .010476 is MOA.

Right? I'm no math scholar.

[wildworks]

I did forget to specify 1/4 or 1/8 th moa clicks! and yes you can pre multiply the eq.


and you say you are not a mathmagician??????

no one ever accused me of being smart! I just thought this fun to play with without getting too tech.!!!!!!

[Rocky Raab]

Intro to Algebra is as far as I got, brother. And since I was in an all-boys high school at the time, I spent most of that class fantasizing about Alge's bra - if you know what I mean.

[BILLY D.]

ROCKY

I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU BUT I LOVE YOU ANYWAY. YOU GOT A REAL WAY WITH WORDS.

IF YOU WERE FANTISIZING ABOUT ALGE'S BRA YOU MUST HAVE BEEN GOING TO A CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL.

[Rocky Raab]

Indeed it was. Assumption High in East St Louis, Illinois - total of 600 students. Which meant something like 300 gallons of raging testosterone went sloshing through the halls every day.

Our 'sister' school was St Theresa's. I suppose they had sloshing estrogen, but I never saw any evidence of that.

BTW, for a Catholic school, we were raw. In my class was a son of the local crime family, and six of my classmates drew convictions for grand larceny, aggravated assault and murder two. I didn't count the auto theft, drugs or robbery/burglary ones: too many to keep track of.

They later converted the place to a juvenile detention center, but that wasn't much of a change!

[BILLY D.]

HOLY SMOKE, I'M GLAD I WAS IN 'NAM WHERE IT WAS QUIET AND SAFE.

I RECOGNIZED YOUR DESCRIPTION OF SCHOOL DAYS FROM MY OWN. I WENT TO A CATHOLIC HS ALSO, CHAMINADE, DAYTON OHIO. NO ROWDINESS THERE, IF YA WERE YA GOT EXPELLED. AT THAT TIME IT WAS WORSE THAN EXCOMMUNICATION.

HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

[Rocky Raab]

Mine was 1961-'65.

The week I started (with a scholarship), the teaching brothers pulled some of us aside and said, "If you want an education here, you have to get it yourself. We're too busy keeping order."

It was the truth.

There was a black market run out of the lockers where you could buy a gun, a girl or a "hot" car. Even heroine.

I was a weak and skinny kid, a smart guy and a loner. Prey, in other words. The only way I stopped the attacks and threats was to wire my biggest bully's car with an incendiary device one Friday night. It was a small one, but on Monday I told him that if he kept up on me, things would get bigger on his end, too. Nobody fooled with me after that.

Funny, huh?

[Evan03]

i think hard times created great people.

Rocky and otheres are a rare breed, they sure dont make em like them anymore


Evan