Well here's a question for y'all

[skeet]

Actually I have a few Maganumbs. And one or two is Newfangled or thereabouts. Have a 300 Win Mag a 300H&H a 257 Weatherby mag..oh and an oldfangled 375H&H. Not scared to shoot'em or anything just don't have much use for these new maganumbs with the short fat body and the shorter action(by a whole half inch. To get the higher velocities they holler so loudly about they work at much higher pressures to get a whole(maybe 100 FPS) more than say a 300 Win mag. Then they tout the short action with the shorter bolt throw..like you actually notice it. Sure they do. 2 ounces and a half inch. wow. The thing I like about the Kimber isi it is a really nice remake of the pre64 Winchester 70 rifle. Better fitting and steels. And did i say they are pretty?? Notwithstanding I actually enjoy shooting most of them. The only one I haven't included is an old Weatherby 300 built on a flat top Mauser action. MAde in the 50's sometime when Weatherby got actions wherever they could. That thing is the nastiest shootin gun I have ever shot. Specially for its size.

Muledeer I also have a Barrett 50. One of the older semi auto's. Bought a few years back from a DEA agent. It was probably a confiscation. I didn't ask as the price was right. He actually had a couple IIRC. and a bunch of other guns. Some I actually wanted..badly. But he didn't want to sell darn it. He had one of them German MP 40s or whatevers. Ugly but..neat at the same time. I probably couldn't afford to shoot it anyway... My father in law said he captured one or two of them in the late lamented WWII. he said he shot a few rounds out of it.. Said everybody shot at him. It had a distinctive sound...or so he said.

[muledeer]

Well have you decided yet? Will you (do you) have an opportunity to fire the Kimber before you purchase? You have some stout calibers in your locker. I don't think a 300WSM will rattle you at all.
muledeer

[Goody]

A friend of mine has a 300WSM. That is his whitetail hunting rifle. He loves it. What the heck buy it. We can't have to many guns.
Goody

[bigbrother]

I'll buy it for $700. Seriously....if you can get that deal done....I'll buy it for $700 no questions.

[GoodOlBoy]

I still wouldn't buy it for $700. $500 yes, $700 no.

At $500 I would turn around and trade it for a better caliber, or have it rebarreled.

Everybody is so enamored of the odd wierd, and just plain stupid variety of calibers out there. It's a real shame. I can't tell you how often I see a guy during hunting season in the locals store bitching because he bought some off the wall neato new caliber and nobody in any hunting area has ammo for it. Me? I am pretty well sick of reloading calibers because I don't have a choice in the matter. I have gotten myself down to mostly calibers I can buy off the shelf for a rush hunting or plinking trip, and thats it. No more oddballs for me. I reload for cost effectiveness, or to tailor a load, not because I absolutely have no choice in the matter.

In the end buddy its whether or not YOU want the gun. If you want it, you cand get the ammo locally, or don't mind having to order ammo online, or go to big city shops to get it then buy all means, more power to you. I never said it was an inferior caliber. Just that I don't see a need for them.

Some of the new calibers work, work well, and are available in po-dunk towns and areas (like the 204 Ruger) Some slightly older calibers are hard to find around here (like 22-250).

GoodOlBoy

[skeet]

Originally Posted by Goody

. We can't have to many guns.
Goody

Goody..I hate to disagree on that point as i used to feel that way..but yes you can have too many guns. I am approaching the saturation point myself. To give you an idea..when I moved to Wyoming I had 117 22 rifles..just 22's of Winchester Remington and Marlin persuasion. I sold most of 'em so far..but at the same time I bought over 60 guns at yard sales in one year. Some are gone but wow. Now Rocky has me fired up for a Ruger Flattop in 44 Special.. sigh..It's a tough job..but somebody has to buy 'em.

Bigbrother..If'n I do buy it..I'll probably keep it. Did I say Kimbers are perty guns?? And it is at a price that is pretty good...even if it is for a short fat maganumb. If I don't like it..well I'll think about selling it then.. And another point against it is it's in a place where the gummit will have to know I got it...I don't buy too many guns in stores these days. I don't trust them politicians or the rest of the idiots running this country

[Larryjk]

Skeet, Are you interested in the Kimber 300 WSM as a bench rest rifle, or a walking around hunting rifle? A walking around hunting rifle will be carried more than it will be shot, and most hunter get that little shot of adrenaline when they pull the trigger that makes them forget that a rifle recoils. A 300 WSM isn't a bad kicker, even in a lighter rifle. Also the fairly straight stock brings the recoil back into your shoulder with less stock lift into your cheek. I would buy it in a heart-beat.

[skeet]

I'm lucky to keep 'em in the bull anyway. And yep..I know about shooting when game is in sight..guns don't recoil then.........Well that nasty 300 Weatherby does. Nasty blasted gun. Went and bought the darn thing. Even if I don't keep it..it'll be good trading fodder. If I have the time I'll post a picture. As I said..it ain't beautiful...but it sure is purty..like a spotted calf.. Oh heck..not as purty as Lilred though..specially when she's havin a rant..

[GoodOlBoy]

lol congrats on another buy there buddy. Being a Kimber it will be REALLY good trade fodder (as you said) and is probably a shooter as well, despite the caliber (Sorry guys had ta get in one last dig)

Anyway have fun with it.

GoodOlBoy

[skeet]

Actually I told a friend about it yesterday evening and he wants it badly. Offered me on a trade a Rem 722 257 Roberts in the nice BDL grade and a Colt 22 revolver Peacemaker style adjustable sights and extra cylinder. I may just have to do that deal. I figure the pair are worth about a grand.. The Colt is nice. like new but no box.. We'll see. As I said...the Kimber is a Purty gun. And like i said..classy..... like the ladies on this site

[wrenchman]

Of all the wsm rounds the 300 will be the one that will be around for a while it is also the one that is still talked about after all the wsm rounds came out.
I think it is becouse it is 30 caliber lots of guys that do like it are former 300wincherster round fans they like the shorter action.

[GoodOlBoy]

I like that trade you are already talkin skeet. Tell him to throw in a good coon hound and its a deal. . . .

GoodOlBoy

[skeet]

Just what I need...a coonhound! Heck I already got 3 foodhounds. I just trap the coons. Too many of 'em like my corn..

[Larryjk]

wrenchman, Just how much shorter is a short action, for say the 300 WSM , than an action for the 30-06? I know they are a little shorter than some of the "long actions' for the magnums based on the H&H cartridge. I think a lot of the short action craze is a lot of hype put out by gun writers "who would never tell us a whopper". I have had both and have never noticed any difference when I was actually shooting them. There may be about an ounce difference in weight, but that is all. Not much difference.

[PJgunner]

Well, JMHO but of I already had a .300 Win. mag. I probably would not bother getting a .300WSM. However, I have done some work with two rifles in .300 WSM and frankly, I like it.
The first was a standard Winchester M70 Classic (pre-64 style) that a new kid to shooting was wanting to sight in. Now that rifle has a bit of weight to it and although it was his first centerfire high power rifle, he shot darn good groups with the gun from the bench. He then let me shoot a few rounds (5) and the group was solid one inch. FWIW, his groupss were in the 1.25 to
1.50" range. Not too shabby for a newbie.
My second run with a .300 WSM was my ex-son-in-law's M70 classic Featherweight, a much lighter rifle than the Classic standard model. he was not a reloader when he bought it so he left the rifle with me to work up loads for him. I gues by the time I was through, I'd put maybe 200 to 250 rounds through the gun from the bench and frankly, the recoil was not all that bad. We had the gun glass bedded and a decent trigger job done on the gun and groups (5 shot) run in the 1.0" to 1.25" range.
If I were in the fame of mind to buy another .300 mag. of any kind. I'd look real close at one of those Featherweights for several reasons. One, at 8,000 feet MSL, rifle weight seem to climb exponentially, especially if you're on the wrong side of 60 years old. (I'm nearly 72) Second, it's a hell of a lot lighter than my 26" McMillan stocked Winchester M70 in .300 Win. Mag. and even lighter than my three Ruger #1 rifles in .300 Win. Mag. So would I buy one? Maybe, if the price was right. I own one early Kimber rifle, a medium weight barrelled .223 and if someone offered me a Kimber in .300 WSM that was as described, I'd be all over it like stink from a skunk although I'd much rather have the featherweight.
Paul B.