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03-06-2005, 11:20 PM
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thats actualy my deer load and varmit load to boot.
100gr nsler balistic tipp. cant remember how fast exackly but 3500fps sounds just about right. i also loaded 100gr nolser partitions but they didnt shoot near as well so i gave up on them and went with what was the most acurate. i used to load 85gr nolser bts and 75gr vmaxes but i kinda quit because the 100grs shoot very well so i figured why not use them for everything. ive taken a few coyotes and badgers with the 100gr nosler bt and like the results. bullet didnt blow them apart at close or long range. so i slowly became confident with the load as my deer and varmit load. i still will load some 75gr vmaxes to get the cool redmist effect from smaller critters, i used up all my 85 bts and wont be getting anymore, though this bullet coul also be made into screamer pushn the 3700fps mark. it had the same effect on varmits. actualy i might change my mind and work with the 85gr bullet some more to see what i can cook up in fast acurate load if possible. might be my new antelop load you just talked me into hmmmmm but whatif my 270wsm can push the 130gr nosler balistic tipp close to 3500, right now im loading the 140gr nosler bt to to a moderate 3100. hmmmmm did i decide on the nolser balistic tipp as my deer load, when did that happen. acuracy draws me to the bullet more than bullet desing does. i doubt ill load 130sww in it when its already pushn 140s plenty fast, and could go faster. but right now were sitn good where were at, drivin the 140 to 3100 acuratly, and that didnt come realy easy, i tried more than a few difrent powder charges to find the acurate load. i have pretty much came to nosler balistic tipps as my deer load. shot a coyote with the 140gr bt at bout 300yds with the 270wsm and bullet didnt exit. ive taken alot of varmits with nosler bts and havent seen them get very devestateiing. i even took a few rock chucks with the 140gr plastic tipped slug with little mess. ive shot yotes with 55gr vmaxes out of the 220swift that left a football sized hole at that range on acasion, the same bullet at distance sometimes wouldnt exit all my calibers 277 and smaller will shoot balsitic tipps because ive found that they are just acurate and are produceing results i like to see. the 22s shoot vmaxes and the 25 and 270s shoot nolser. the 300win will get alittle difrent treatment and be fed dieat of tough bullets. im gona start my schooling in the 300win caliber with 168gr barnes tripple shocks. if i find a load fairly quick i might settle righ there? but ill also try the same bullet thats weighs more, 180 or 200grs. if im not happy with tripple shocks ill go to partitions. after my heavy critter getter loads are good to go ill try some 165gr nolser bts, just because i can and might try the load on some varmits. those are the plans as of now Evan 
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03-07-2005, 09:35 AM
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ANDY L..........Well, I reckon you took the words right out of my mouth sir! Yep, that old lever gun I would be willing to bet my truck, has taken more deer in the USA & Canada than any caliber that is or was in existence today. Ummmmm sure makes a fellow wonder why all the need for big mags and tons or smack down energy ya think.
 Now on the other side of the spectrum is the little caliber called the .243 Winchester, that many seem to believe is NOT a very good thing to have in hand for harvesting whitetail deer. Most that say that, I would give 6 to 1 odds ain't never hunted with one for deer or shot a deer. Tarnations, I got a brother in law who used to kill elk with one, along with mule deer don't cha know.  Truth to the matter is this Andy L, darn near any caliber today from the .243 Winny on up the scale is a good deer gun. It never has been the calibers fault of not bringing the venison home to the freezer. Hunters who can't shoot or don't know squat for bullet selection is my theory of their demise in the woods. NO my wood haulin truck ain't fer sale either!
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03-07-2005, 03:25 PM
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HI Ball,
Your on the money. There are many perfect deer rifles out there. I have killed several with a 243. My 10 year old has killed 4 with 4 shots and you cant convince him its not perfect. Ive killed several with a 30-30 too. That was my first gun and killed my first two deer on the same morning with it, when I was 11. You couldnt have convinced me then that the 30-30 wasnt the berries for deer. Im just messin around on this thread. Some people get so worked up about certain things, its all in good fun.  Good to check in for a chuckle a time or two a day. Andy
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03-07-2005, 03:30 PM
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Andy, is that good enough?
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03-07-2005, 07:15 PM
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Gentlemen,
Y'all have it all wrong about the best deer rifle! The best deer rifle is defitely the 7mm Remington magnum. How could you even think of any thing else but the 7mm mag. The 220 Swift got robbed when the rumor came out that it burned out barels. It's still the King of 22 caliber rifles. I have been in love with Mustangs ever since I saw the movie Bullit with Steve Mcqueen as a teenager. I almost bought a cobra last year, but the seller backed out of the deal. John
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03-07-2005, 07:46 PM
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did we just mention 22 cals in perfect deer rifle thread hmmmm.
you know ive nothing but good from folks that have taken deer with the 220 swift. same with the 22/250, ive even talked to a few that have used the 223 and 22lr. but i think the 223 -220 22cals with the right bullet can make doable deer rigs when you hunt with deer calls 243 and up all your life then all the sudden you have this urge to start takeing deer with the 22/250. i think this is the first step into boredome and the ist step to going to a bow and string. id say the 22 cals are just as caple as bow and arrow when used within theyre limits. at that note id like to let all know that i finaly broke down bought box of 224 cal 53 grain tripple shocks, hmmmmm wha the heck are those for. i wouldnt say im bored i just want to try everything. good a mate Evan
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03-07-2005, 07:53 PM
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Im going to attempt to kill deer this year with my 17Rem with a 25gr Berger MEF. Only if I can get it to stand long enough for an eye shot, everything should work as planned. Then, it will be known as another perfect deer rifle.
(Before I get flamed all to kingdom come, this was only a joke. I would never risk wounding a deer with a bullet not suited for taking a deer quickly and cleanly or, a 270.....)  Andy
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03-07-2005, 09:23 PM
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Cant help ya on the Mustangs Fabs, but if they go to pickin on Superdutys with Powerstrokes, I got your back. Everyone knows you cant beat em....
I like the 220 Swift. The 22-250 is kinda like the 270. Its ok if you can only own one rifle. Anyone knows that the 22-250 is outdone by the 223 and 220 on respective ends of the bullet weights, just as the 270 is outdone by the 25-06 and the 280 or virtually any 30 cal on the other end...... Andy
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03-07-2005, 11:55 PM
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You all know that the 30-30 is totally obsolette, a product of the 19th century, and we should all quit using such an antique
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