Schindlers list

[Classicvette63]

All the folks who signed up to support Terri Schiavo can expect phonecalls from telemarketers in the very near future. That is because Terri's parents have sold that list to a telemarketing company. Like the parents didn't act like scumbags throughout the whole ordeal, now this. Kinda serves those holier than thou, good for nothing busy bodies right. Maybe now the spammers will keep them busy enough to mind their own business. I guess the whole thing with Terri was all about money, but the greedy party isn't who some people thought it was.

[jojo]

Not to start anything, but I support Mike. I think that man got fried by the press, the politicians, and the Schindlers. I think its wrong he is getting tried in the court of public opinion. I am a Republican and I think Bush and congress went too far.

[fabsroman]

Classic,

Can you enlighten me about how the Schindler's were greedy? Now, I am not saying you are right or wrong, I am just trying to find out all the facts I can. I am in the middle of the road on this one. I truly think Michael Schiavo is a POS, but I don't exactly know what the parents' motive in this whole thing was. At the end of the day, I think it was just two groups of people that were so bitter with each other that they wanted their way regardless. Sad thing it that the judiciary and Terri had to be stuck in the middle. Now, if Schiavo had said, "Listen, I don't want a single penny and I will donate it all to the charity of your choise Mr. & Mrs. Schindler, possibly the Eating Disorder Charity of Florida", then this whole thing might have been avoided. I bet he doesn't donate the $40,000 or $50,000 that he gets from the trust and I bet both he and the parents write books about this. They should be shot if they do it for financial gain instead of telling their side of the story, and anybody that buys the book should be shot.

I also think that Schiavo must be truly evil to tell the Schindlers that he is cremating the body, taking the ashes somewhere, and throwing them to the wind and he is not disclosing the place and he is not allowing the Schindlers to be there. First off, Catholicism requires that a person be buried, but I guess religion doesn't matter in this one.

A lot of people have heated feelings about this whole matter without knowing everything. I could probably write my own book on this mess. Funny thing is that I have had several clients call me about estate planning recently and before this I couldn't get anybody to do it. I was even going to send out a newsletter about the need to do some death planning for those of us that are married, and especially for those of us that have children, but now I am going to hold off on it because attorneys are sending out newsletters left and right about this issue because of the interest raised by Terri Schiavo. I don't want to look like one of those blood suckers.

[Rocky Raab]

I'm with you, Fabs. NOBODY who got their info from the news media or even talk radio knows all the details behind that ordeal.

So I'm not judging any of them.

It was a damn shame no matter who was the jerk. Even if the root cause was her own fault (or nobody's fault), the way she ended up was pitiful. And by that I mean "deserving of pity" and nothing else.

[M.T. Pockets]

I'm a husband and the father of a daughter. It is impossible to know how one would feel in either of their positions unless you were them. I think surviving the way she was is far worse than death, but if it were my daughter I can't say I'd still feel that way. The tragedy is that it became such a public affair.

Any issue that can get G.W. Bush and Jesse Jackson on the same side is WAY beyond something I'll ever figure out.

[Skinny Shooter]

Yep, I don't have all the facts either but I can comment on what I heard come form the mouth of the husband.

A scumbag is someone who has an affair with another woman and then brags about it on Larry King Live and how proud he is of the children he fathered and of his fiance' while his wife lies in a hospice.
If he really wanted to get on with his life, then divorce his wife and move on...

The court system just starved a woman to death and in my book that is murder. Folks we don't want to get started down the road.

Classic, can you share a link about the telemarketers?

[Dale]

Here is a news story about it.

CNN Story

[TreeDoc]

Ditto, Skinny!

[Purebred Redneck]

I can understand both sides.

What it came down to -
The parents wanted to keep their daughter alive

Mike wanted to get married to another woman and live a normal life again. You can not get married while you're still married...
In addition, I would not want to give half of everything I had for a divorce.

[fabsroman]

He wouldn't have had to give half of everything he owned for a divorce. What he would have had to give up was his right to anything in Terry's estate should he divorce her (i.e., a right to the million dollar trust). He would also have had to give up his position as Terri's guardian because the guardian would have to work out the divorce issue. I am sure that the Schindlers would have let him keep all of the marital property in lieu of getting any share of the trust money. The best way this could have gone down to find out everybodies motive would have been for Michael to ask for a divorce two or three years after the malpractice settlement, have the Schindlers okay the divorce, and then see what the Schindlers would have done with Terri given that they would inherit the million dollars upon Terri's passing.

Again, there are a lot of facts missing in this one and I don't know that anybody can put together all the facts over the 15 years, not even the Schindlers and Schiavo.

I do encourage everybody to prepare the necessary documents so that their loved ones will be spared any hardship should something tragic happen. Key word is tragic because none of us ever plan on dying. I had two 30 something clients with children almost pass away, one from a car accident and the other from a rare nervous system disease, and neither of them had the proper documents in place. That was my reason for sending the newletter out. Even though this is a terrible thing that happened to Terri, hopefully it will spur some public awareness on this issue.

[Classicvette63]

Michael Schiavo wasn't after money. If he was, he would have taken the 10 million offered to turn over custody of Terri. The parents were greedy by accepting money for the list of supporters. If a telemarketer offered you money for the list of people who attended a loved ones viewing/funeral, what would you say? I bet the vast majority would tell them to take a flying leap. Besides this "trust" is pretty much empty from medical care and legal fees so I don't know how Michael is going to get rich off of that.

Although it may have been spiteful, I can't blame Michael for not having the schindlers at the funeral. After all the low down dirty crap they pulled and said about him, serves them right. They did more flip flopping than klinton.

Nobody wants to see a loved one pass, especially ones children, but sometimes things happen. Some people say that a dog wouldn't be treated as poorly as Terri. That is true. If you had a dog in that condition, you'd give it an injection and it would be over. The holy rolling busybodies have seen to it that people must suffer, where as a dog wouldn't.

Lest people think I don't know what I'm talking about, I've been in a similar situation. There weren't and I can gaurantee there wouldn't be a load of protesters out front causing a ruckus.

[fabsroman]

Classic,

This is the first I have heard about the 10 million dollar offer to turn Terri over. Where did you hear this from, and can you point me in the direction of the source. I am really trying to get to know as much about this as possible for discussions sake.

Let's also leave the dog comparison out of this because I can take my dog outside and shoot him for no reason at all, which I would never do, even if he is healthy. Try that with a human being and you will most likely end up in jail. I have also seen some dogs that have been treated very poorly and others that have been beaten silly.

[Valigator]

This is one issue with no winners and no correct side....this country has so many important issues...for the President to come back from Crawford early and call a session on Palm Sunday...really pissed me off.......I still cant get over that one....I would like to take away all the emotion and really know what was what on this one......I am not sure any of us will know.....

[fabsroman]

Exactly!!!!!! We will never know everything about this.

Of course, that is until we meet Terri in heaven. Then we can ask her what her wishes were. Of course, if she wanted to be left alive, we probably won't be seeing Michael up there with us.

My feeling is that Michael had some alterior motive behind everything because as I understand it, he never mentioned that her wish was not to be kept alive through artificial means until after the million dollar settlement. What I don't understand is how that feeding tube was inserted in the first place if he was her guardian and knew her wishes. Then again, maybe it was inserted before he was actually appointed the guardian.

Like I said, to sort through 15 years of evidence, most of which we have is distorted in some manner, makes this thing really tough.

[Valigator]

Why do we keep dancin around this...if it were you...would you have wanted to live the life she has lived for the last 15 years...pull the plug and be done with it....