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In the 1950's a series of dams were built on the Missouri River, in the name of flood control for the "good of the public".
This displaced many, many ranchers off of some of the most productive (not to mention beautiful) ranchland and farmland from Nebraska, through South Dakota, North Dakota and Montana. I know of a couple towns that were moved entirely, and how many ranch sites had to be abandoned. I doubt that they were given a choice by the Army Corp. of Engineers. This was done for the "public good" with Federal dollars. I know this is small scale compared to N.O. but to the individuals that lost their homes it's no different, they didn't have a say at all. I'd have to say if the Federal Gov't is buying these damaged homes (Classic's right, their all condemned) then it's up to the Fed's what they want to do with their property from that point on. I don't think it should be rebuilt at this location, this is an opportunity of a lifetime to build the city in a safer location. Who would the Fed's be helping if they allowed rebuilding at this location ? They'd be setting these folks up for another disaster, like parking a car on the train tracks.
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I think that Ray Nagin has done a fine job as mayor and New Orleans being very historic, should be rebuilt. Our incompetent governer Kathleen Blonco is where alot of the states problems lie. Now New Orleans will be a much better city.
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No way on the rebuild of the flooded sections. That is ridiculous, IMO. Ok, you strip it to the shell, wash the wood, basically rebuild the whole thing. What have you got? (its going to be too late for alot of the wood, btw) What about the soaked crawl space or basement that is still toxic? What about the soil? Thats going no where for a long time. There will probably be some new strains of mold that man has never seen before come out of this due to the mixture of salt, fresh water, sewage, gas, oil, dead bodies and a host of chemicals from countless garages and stores. There is no telling what is going to grow in that soil and affected areas. It will be like a toxic waste dump.
I dont see any way that that city can ever be inhabitable again. I know I wouldnt even consider it, if it were my city, to take my children back into that. We have no clue what kind of diseases may come of that. We dont know because it has never happened. There is a town in Missouri, not far from St Louis, called Times Beach. Although its no comparisson to NO in size, its now gone, many years ago, because some cat was using it for a toxic waste dump. I would consider this along the same lines. There is just no way to clean that city up. I would say leave the French Quarter for parties, bars and grills, kinda like a vacation spot, but with very few residents. Let the rest go back to what mother nature wanted it to be, wetlands. If she didnt, she wouldnt have made it below sea level and below the level of the Mississippi River. Man keeps encroaching on nature and then whines like a baby when a natural thing happens and they lose it all. New Orleans, or the area it was built on, was mostly meant to be a wetland buffer to protect Baton Rouge and that area. Now thats not hard to see. Rebuild it, no. Simple for me to see anyway. Andy |
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The pollution laws that the liberal environmental whackos screamed for may well prevent rebuilding much of the city.
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its gona get rebuilt, its gona flood again, they were dumbsh!ts then and theyre the same now
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study guide for the learning impaired...
be•low P Pronunciation Key (b -l )
adv. 1. In or to a lower place; beneath. 2. a. On or to a lower floor; downstairs. b. Nautical. On or to a lower deck. 3. In a later part of a given text: figures quoted below. 4. Farther down, as along a slope or valley. 5. In or to hell or Hades. 6. On the earth. 7. a. In a lower rank or class. b. Below zero in temperature: 40° below. prep. 1. Underneath; beneath. 2. Lower than, as on a graduated scale. 3. Downstream of: launched the canoe just below the bridge. 4. South of: Guatemala is below Mexico. 5. Unsuitable to the rank or dignity of: Such petty behavior is below me. sea level n. Abbr. SL The level of the ocean's surface, especially the level halfway between mean high and low tide, used as a standard in reckoning land elevation or sea depths.
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Hi .243hunter, he sure did do a great job.
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Fiji,
I like that. I live near Lake of the Ozarks. Now, its not the ocean, but it does have 1200 miles of shoreline, so its no pond either. N.O. would be like buying a lot in the back of a cove and building a basement house on it. Now, if you put your levees just right, you will be fine, most of the time. Full Pool is 660' above sea level. They normally keep it under 658'. Not much over 659'. But, since there is another huge lake, even bigger, Truman Lake, on the upper end of this lake that dumps into it and its got all the drainage from Kansas, basically, from the Osage River, sometimes it gets a little higher than they want. Now, would you feel safe with this house? Knowing that the jet stream could get just right to flood Kansas and Missouri for a week and your going to be under water? Well, same thing. Andy |
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Andy
No....I would not...and no I wouldnt want to pay for the coverage...but what do I know? I live in Ft. Lauderdale....
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yup
One "Bubba" loses a trailer 'cause he lives on a flood plain and he makes the evening news. Everyone calls him a stupid idiot (especially when he rebuilds in the same spot).
485,000 "Bubbas" do the exact same thing and suddenly its a national tragedy ??? And we ALL have to pay?? I'm all for compensation/restitution/ saving the infirmed, and elderly stuck down there (they are the ones at the top of the casualty list....abandoned and left behind like animals in the mass exodus) I am NOT, however, for my $ going to rebuild some idiots 1/2 million dollar dream home in Jazz land But....YES ya just GOTTA keep the GIRLS GONE WILD !!
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I am going to be totally honest and say I didn't read the whole thread but It should be rebuilt because if they do the damn levy system right this time, the way it should have been done to begin with, the city would not flood the way it did. Of course there would still have been wind damage but if the levies were right to begin with the flooding would not have happened
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Maybe they should rebuild maybe they shouldn't but if they do , bulldoze everything the first 2 miles from the gulf then start over. Def need to build larger and stronger levies. It's bad to say but i really don't feel all that bad for them. Sure it's sad but life goes on. I don't like the fact that the idiots were lootin' when they don't even have a home to put it in. Their excuse , " we don't have anything left" well where the heck are you gonna put what you took. I'd be more worried about food instaed of friggin' sneakers. By the time the even get a decent start rebuilding another storm will come in knock'em around again and they'll want more help , probably not this year but next year.
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If they want to rebuild it with there money then fine by me.
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back to the original title of the thread. "why should new orleans be rebuilt".
i have struggled for days to keep my big mouth shut. but here goes. why? because we are americans and thats what we do. we love lost causes. the world trade center is a classic example, look at the repairs to that building after the, i believe it was the '93 bombing. after some thought i will answer val's copy on how to destroy america, at which time i will probably be banned from this site. i have some really strong thoughts about that one.
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Billy,
Have you noticed that it has been 4 years since the World Trade Center went down and nothing has been rebuilt there. The 1993 bombing in the garage was nothing compared to the entire destruction of the Twin Towers or the entire destruction of New Orleans. I never saw Val's post on how to destroy America. Where is it located and what is it called? I would be interested in reading that one.
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