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Old 10-02-2005, 07:35 PM
royinidaho royinidaho is offline
 
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Here's some straight skinny.

270 Winchester - 27" Lilja bbl. Installed by Ray Montgomery of Grand Junction Co. Other than that she's a standard winnie.

When she had a 24" Douglas bbl (took 30 years to wear it out) standard loads were:

Sierra 130 boat tail - 3190 fps
Sierra 90gr - 3400 fps.

W/N-204 could get the 90 to 3600+ just couldn't get the N-204.

With the Lilja BBL:

130 sierra/135 Sierra/140Hornady/135 Lost River - 3200 fps. Could go to 3250+ but what's the sense.

90gr Sierra - 3700 fps.

BTW accuracy is in the 0.5MOA range. Gave the rifle to my son who will shoot his first Muley buck on October 15 at about 8:21 in the morning at a range of between 475 and 560 yds.

The difference between the winnie and the WSM is that this one is in-hand and shootin'
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Old 10-02-2005, 07:43 PM
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we've gone over this time and time again. the day i can get any rifle chambered in the WSM as i can the old .270 is the day i seriously look for a WSM. same goes with bullet selection. i'm sure if i handloaded i could get that old .270 round to do anything the short mag can do but i don't. big selection of loadings from the factory is important to me.

i've also stated that in the field, any advantage the WSM has over the .270win is purely academic. sure, you can get all excitied over what it says in print but when bullet hits flesh, you wouldn't have known the difference and niether would the deer. doubt he would care either.

enjoy your short mag and i'll enjoy my OLD .270
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:15 AM
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http://huntchat.com/showthread.php?threadid=40291

7th post down, 4th paragraph into it. quite an interesting take from mr. evan
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Old 10-05-2005, 07:52 AM
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"back to the topick. i think the wsm hav an advantage in the recoil dept and that dept only. i dont see any balistic improvements. anywhere. but recoil when compared to the 270wsm and 270win. the wsm is definatly less when pushing hot 140gr loads."

my words word for word, but i must say ill fix my typeing err.
The wsm i belive to have an advantage when pushing 140gr bullets. 3200fps is not unheard of

here she is for all others to view easier

and this is another one recently posted(few minutes ago) that state the same thing.


word fro word from the magnum not needed topic in the rifles forumn.

"let the hunters who have exsperince with the calibers give the best information. ill tell you i concider the wsm and win277 calibers about as close to identical as you can get. but i still like them both alot. "

have i said i like them both??????
i brought the topick up more for other hunters than you. we both know the 270win is just as good. but for the hunter who doesnt already have 277 caliber. id like to see them concider both then make a decision.

however i wouldnt through the weatherby 270 in the mix. to much go juice for the intended job i think. but that just my opion i havent had exsperince with the caliber. its suposed to be one heck of a long range deer and antelop getter. if i had one id even give her a go on elk. but i like my little calibers

plus im behind on my reloading as it is.

Evan
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:16 AM
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i agree with you on the weatherby thing.
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