Wolves killing hunting dogs in Wisconsin

multibeard · #1 09-09-2006, 03:27 PM

Here is a link to a Wisconsin DNR article about wolves killing bear dogs during this summers bear dog training period.

http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/.../dogdepred.htm

I am not trying to get an argument started about wolves again but thought the article should be made available so every one can see what is happening in Wisconsin

fabsroman · #2 09-09-2006, 06:13 PM

That would really suck. I got a headache just trying to read the site and trying to figure out how somebody would be able to protect their dogs. Seems like people hunting with hounds will be out of business in Wisconsin.

multibeard · #3 09-09-2006, 07:07 PM

The same thing is going on with the bear hunters in Michigan. You will never see the Michigan DNR ever admit that any such thing is going on here.

The bad part about it is the bear hunters association in Michigan has lost the support many sportsman in the state. The trappers in the lower peninsula had fought and got a short bobcat trapping season in a limited area. The bear hunters sued and got the season stopped. The hound hunters do not want to share the resource.

It wasn't many years ago the all the sportsmen of the state united to defeat a ballot proposal that would have banned bear hunting with dogs.

Brant Buster · #4 09-09-2006, 09:55 PM

Shoot, shovel and shut-up!

By all means protect your firends (your family pooches) and property, ......

And to hell with environmentalists who espouse the wolf!

WE DO HAVE A RIGHT TO PROTECT OUR PROPERTY!!, which is how some lame politically correct judge would classify your dogs and pets.

multibeard · #5 09-09-2006, 10:38 PM

The hard part with the bear hounds or any other hound running game is that they are generally to far away when attacked to protect them. When it is training season you would probably end up in the pokey if you were armed in the woods unless you had a concealed carry permit.

Until the recent rewrite of Michigans carry law you couldn't carry while bow hunting.

Lilred · #6 09-10-2006, 07:10 PM

It's true that any runnin hound is usually quite a distance from you..but a bear dog can be killed by a bear iffin the bear seen fit...there is cougar in the va mountains that have killed many a bear, cat and coon dog...and a pack of yotes will kill a beagle or small dog if the situation warrants it. A cornered coon will tear a dog plum to pieces too. It's a risk we all take runnin hounds.
However....if I did catch an animal attackin my dogs...and I could pull off a shot...it would most certainly bite that bullet...I dont care iffin it's a endangered snail..he'd git it.
As fer as wolves go...they have wiped out 1/2 the yote population in Yellowstone. (yep this is fact...Im a national geographic and histroy channel freak)
wolves can easily prey upon other dogs...and just about anythin else as fer as i'm concerned. If you was in yellowstone and bleedin from a cut er somthin...you are fair game to a wolf in my opinion.

popplecop · #7 09-11-2006, 09:05 AM

Problem has been around for a number of years here in Wis. The hound hunters I know keep track of the wolf pack areas and train else where. Even then there may be problems, but they avoid known areas in training. The wolves are here to stay and we have to learn to adapt.

skeet · #8 09-11-2006, 02:00 PM

Hey Lilred...what the history channel and Nat Geo don't tell you is that the introduced wolves have wiped out the native population of wolves. It was a small population but the natural wolves that were in the park and surrounding areas..probqbly extinct now for certain. Meddling do gooders from around the country. Said wouldn't it be nice to have wolves in and around Yellowstone. Course they lived in the city. Duh!! Lets ship these grey wolves to their backyards. Neighbor here shot a wolf that killed his cow. Still fighting the gummit. Cost him bout 10 grand so far. And he could go to jail from what I understand.

royinidaho · #9 09-13-2006, 09:09 PM

I guess dogs are pretty much replaceable and the wolves aren't.

There are ways to adversly impact the wolf population but I guess that shouldn't be done.

I recon we just have to sacrifice a dog now and again to the equlibrium of the eco system.

The above in this post is entirely hog wash but I couldn't not say nothing.

Brant Buster · #10 09-14-2006, 10:15 PM

Its a western tradition according to my dad who was from Wyoming. The thought of taking care of my own don't bother me none. That's also a western value I was taught. And my dogs ARE members of my famm! 'Nuff said.

I used to think a .357 Mag would be adequate enough for wandering, hiking, hunting in griZZ country, till I read about the fellow who lost two of hounds east of McCall near the Hell's Canyon region. When i move to Idaho I'll pack a .44 Mag or .45C +P for bears and things that travel in packs.

I recently picked up some special order 3" Remington BuckHammer slug-loads in case I ever see a griZZ that wants to bite me. Surely they'll work well on lupis-preditors too. Those 3" BuckHammers generate more than 3200 fpe at the muzzle with those 602 grain slugs.