New Orleans Gun Confiscation

fabsroman · #1 10-19-2006, 12:07 AM

Check this site out. I am sure it is doctored to some degree, but I can tell you that it has my blood boiling.

www.givethemback.com

BILLY D. · #2 10-19-2006, 01:34 AM

Fabs

I have made some seething posts on other forums about this situation.

Those firearms are toast by now given the expert care I'm sure the City of N.O gave them. They didn't even tag the firearms and the pictures i seen had them just thrown into vaults.

As i understand it the fight is still going on about the owners being reimbursed for them. Like thats ever going to happen. N.O. can't even afford to wipe it's own a$$. Also if the other party gets elected they will rescind the laws now in place in some areas and you can bet your sweet patootie they will not pass any laws barring confiscation in the future; next 8 years.

When 1/2 the police force cut and ran those folks needed protection from the scum that lives there. The mayor and the chief of police did their citizens a great dis-service.

I wouldn't live in a cesspool like that if they paid me $100k to move there.

fabsroman · #3 10-23-2006, 12:00 AM

I pretty much blame the citizens of New Orleans for what happened. They elected their officials, which did nothing before or during the hurricane, and they elected the same idiot again and he has done nothing after the hurricane. Has anybody heard anything about the levies being strengthened?

BILLY D. · #4 10-23-2006, 12:37 AM

Nary a word. I don't see anyone busting their chops cleaning any properties up either. I guess all the folks that lived there expect somebody else to clean up. Meanwhile they are pickin' up their welfare checks in Houston or somewhere else.

That is one sad state of affairs if ya ask me. Of course I can't really blame them. The next storm would simply do the same damage all over again. Why bother with a repeat occurence.

Another point, how much of the destroyed area was public housing and how much was private? Does not look like the city or the state much gives a hoot. You'd think they would because of the lost tax revenue.

As far as I'm concerned the place is a cesspool anyway.

fabsroman · #5 10-23-2006, 11:05 AM

If it were up to me, the entire place would be returned to the status of duck marshes/wetlands to help preserve the environment.

denton · #6 10-23-2006, 11:43 AM

So, fabs, what's likely to happen?

A federal judge ordered them to cease siezing firearms, and to return the ones they have siezed. The police apparently took no care to record which guns were siezed from whom. Most gun owners probably don't have adequate records to show which serial number is theirs, or to prove that a gun was taken.

The city is in violation of the judge's order.

So how is this going to get resolved? Or is it?

Jack · #7 10-23-2006, 12:21 PM

The levees are being strenghtened and rebuilt, which is the responsibility of the Corps Of Engineers. Hopefully, it will be done well enough and quickly enough.

Classicvette63 · #8 10-23-2006, 02:13 PM

Some of it is their own dumb fault. If they wouldn't have given them up, they wouldn't have a hard time getting them back. Pretty simple concept.

fabsroman · #9 10-23-2006, 02:59 PM

Classic,

If you watch the video of the little old lady that had her revolver taken, you wouldn't be saying something like that. She is 60 years old and pretty fragile looking. Four police officers took her down to the ground when she showed them the revolver that had its cyclinder open. All of this was caught on video.

Most of the people that are included in the video look to be either old or out of shape. Also, if I am a single homeowner being confronted by several police officers with assault weapons in their hands, I too would hand over whatever firearm they want. Now, me being who I am and knowing what I can do with a firearm, the police would have to really try to remove them from me in a situation like that of New Orleans. Sometimes, giving up a firearm is about the same thing as dying. Sometimes, it is smarter to give up a firearm and live to fight another day.

Regarding the other question about how this is going to be handled, that is a tough question. If I were the Judge, I would ask everybody that had a firearm confiscated to register their name, address, and any firearm info they have with the Court or the NRA. The Court probably does not want to expend its resources dealing with this. Then, I would hit New Orleans with punitive damages and have that paid out to all the people that registered. Another method is a class action lawsuit, and while it will not make everybody whole (i.e., those that had high dollar guns confiscated), it would put a hurt on New Orleans. Then again, what Judge is going to award either things to the victims because it would mean that New Orleans would be losing more money at a time when it needs it most. Personally, I think it is all a big crock. What are the police and the city going to do with all these guns? What have they already done with some of them? Did all of them make it back to police headquarters and the confiscation room, or were some kept and/or sold to others?

The entire situation stinks, as does New Orleans.

Classicvette63 · #10 10-24-2006, 02:41 PM

Fabs, sure not every person is going to have the means or ability to resist. On the other hand, I never thought of the situation of giving up my guns as being dependent on me coming out on top either. If the guys storming Normandy only did so on the belief that they would walk away, it never would have happened.

I do believe in the idea of "fighting another day". But if I give up my guns, what do I have to fight with?

denton · #11 10-24-2006, 06:56 PM

Here in firearm-friendly Utah, I've never given the issue of what to do in such a case any thought.

Since all my firearms are locked up, out of sight, I guess that I would tell them to come back with a search warrant, knowing that the system is broken and that they can't get one. What could they do? Start sawing on the safes? Too much effort...