Prag

[jon lynn]

Wow,

That was a cool trip. It beat all expectations. I had been to a few Czech border towns, but never in the heart of. And I thought Nuernberg, Frankfurt and the like had impressiave old city centers, but my gosh-diddly-osh was my butt awed.

The language was impossaible for me to get a handle on in just 2 days, but the wife got the hang of the mass trans in a few hours. I had Chinese food daily, fried duck, rice, vegitables, beer (Budwar-oridinal real strong Budweiser before the split over 100 years ago) and an eggroll for the total cost for two persons was a grand total of 10 Euros or $15=/- a buck or so.

It was a cool challange...fun, a great birthday present to my self, and me and the missus actually got along the whole time (I'll notify Guiness tommorow )

[Dom]

Wow, you must have made the missus happy Jon - glad you enjoyed your Birthday. I've been thru Prague a few times, I'm not one to spend a lotta time taking in the culture when I'm headed for a huntin' trip!! But I'll admit one time I did get a Bohemian Lead Crystal Flower vase for the Missus in Prague. Most times just kept her in my lane and tryin' to get outta town w/o getting lost.

We ALWAYS brought back a couple cases of that Budwar, the original puts the Budwater in the states to shame. Did you try any Becherovka? That stuff's pretty good, similar to Jaegermeister, Waidmannsheil, Dom.

[gd357]

My brother spent about 6 weeks in and around Prague for a study abroad session in college. He absolutely loved it. He came back extolling the virtues of Budwar. He brought back some Becherovka - that stuff was great! Glad to hear that you enjoyed your trip!

gd

[Gunslingergirl]

I'm green with envy. I would like to see Prague.

Do you have pictures you can post?

GSG

[BILLY D.]

Originally posted by Dom
Wow, you must have made the missus happy Jon - glad you enjoyed your Birthday. I've been thru Prague a few times, I'm not one to spend a lotta time taking in the culture when I'm headed for a huntin' trip!! But I'll admit one time I did get a Bohemian Lead Crystal Flower vase for the Missus in Prague. Most times just kept her in my lane and tryin' to get outta town w/o getting lost.

We ALWAYS brought back a couple cases of that Budwar, the original puts the Budwater in the states to shame. Did you try any Becherovka? That stuff's pretty good, similar to Jaegermeister, Waidmannsheil, Dom.

Dom

You have low standards. Horse Pee puts American beer to shame.

My favorite is still Bitburger Pils. And I can buy it here.

Bill

[Dom]

Ya Billy, you're right, just tryin' to be polite -- every time I'm back I have to keep asking my Brother for 'nother can a water' bitte .

Good to hear you can get Bitburger where you're at, I could live with that!! WH Dom.

[jon lynn]

I learned a very very sad thing when I was back in the good 'ol US of A. EVERY BEER reguardless of origin, sold in the US is pastuerized.


After my first week back in Oklahoma, I went straight to a liquor store in Norman, and got a 6-pack of Warsteiner. Now just having drank one 12 hours earlier (I brought some back with me) with my brother-in-law, who inherited the most of the three 6-packsas a gift from Frankfurt, delivered yours truly.

The US version had a 'funny' taste to it. Iwas A-DISAPOINTED B-Curious C-Dumbfounded.....................until I read the iddy-biddy, teeny weenie letters............." pasteurized"


Nnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Why Lord in hevan, why! (as I dropped to my knees, realizing I really needed to go on a diet-my poor knees-ouch!)

But all beer in the US has to be pasteurized, because of all the cheap route 'cold brewing' has to be pasteurized because the water never boils. So EACH AND EVERY beer in the US has to be pasteurized, beats me why...............to screw with the taste, and make Jon (me) miserable for 14 months, until my return to Germany. So no import is going to taste right


But for the last few years I have been making up for my lack of bier in the US. And I put a big dent in the Budwar, at 17Kronen per 500ml (half liter, a bit more than a quart) or $.95, it was hard not to go too far

Well not too hard

[gd357]

Another problem with the brewing processes here is that it makes the beer acidic in nature, while European brews are basic. Long story short, most beers over there won't dehydrate you. Seems to me it would be worth the hassle to make beer like they do over there, but no one seems to.

gd

[jon lynn]

In most Western European countries beer has to be made by the standards of the monks traditional recepie. Enacted in 1516.

Some brewers substitute rice, maize, sorghum, or other, most
cost-effective raw cereal for barley in the initial stage, (like EACH AND EVERY US BEER MAKER). The
German beer purity law, or Reinheitsgebot, allows no such
substitutes.

Based upon Bavarian custom, an official law was
first enacted in 1516 then modified in March 1952
(Bundesgesetzblatt, or federal law) and September 1980
(Zollaenderunggesetz, or Customs Law Amendment). It originally
exclusively allowed the sale of beer with three ingredients
(water, hops, and barley) but was later revised to allow yeast.

BUT to be called "German Bier" it has to be made by the 1516 standard, otherwise it is just plain old beer, could be made in Germany, but not called German Bier.

The Czechs have a simular law, they have been off and on over the centuries, tied in real strong with Bavaria. The Belgiand have a real good standard too. They even have a famous monistary where the monks make and sell beer............................had some in 1986, it was a good brew

[jon lynn]

The Belgiand


I was trying to type BELGIANS

[BILLY D.]

We've had a few tonite jon? I thought the folks from Belgium were called Belgiques. I never quite figured that country out. They speak German, Dutch and French and sometimes it seemed like they spoke all 3 at once. What a hodge podge.

One of my Grandfathers was from Czechoslovakia and moved to Germany durings his younger years. I still remember him telling stories and being a devout Catholic he talked about the infant Jesus of Prague and the religious significance surrounding the story. My Grandmother and Father always had an infant Jesus statue in their home. It is now in my home. I was always facinated by it when I was a child, so gradually it got passed down to me.

Best wishes, Bill

[gumpokc]

Hey there Jon!
Glad to see your enjoying the old country so much

I only got to go to Czech once, and it was only one of the border towns, after the wall came down. Never got to try and go to where my maternal GG-grandfather immigrated from.

Hopefully someday can do so.

BTW I found a place here in OKC where I can get Heffeweissen, sure it's imported but even so it's better than most available here.

If your ever back in the area gimmie a hollar.