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Old 12-28-2008, 04:11 PM
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gold40,

I think you missed my point. First, the Pennsylvania hunters paid for dozens of shooting ranges on state game lands that are FREE and used by the public and not just huinters who own the state game lands.

I am tired of "reasonable sacrafices", "reasonable controls" and banning certain guns because they "look menacing." I hope I am wrong, but I suspect after January 20, 2009, we gun owners will really need to express our demands and expectations. I hope we can hold our own.

We disagree about silhouette targets and that is ok. Happy New Year.

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Old 12-28-2008, 05:36 PM
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I am tired of "reasonable sacrafices", "reasonable controls" and banning certain guns because they "look menacing."
I'll give that a hearty "Amen"....what next? Banning targets that look like animals because it offends Peta?
It's just a slippery slope.
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:35 PM
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Mr. 16 gauge,

Thank you for giving me the point I could not think of in my last post: "Slippery Slope" it is because once we give in , the antis grab for more and more of our rights.

Happy New Year!

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Old 01-30-2009, 07:33 PM
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Adam

Sounds like the antis have taken control of your gun club. Take care...
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:37 PM
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Free Speech

Doesn't censoring what you put on your target a violation of your free speech? If someone wanted to shoot at an American flag I would not like it but I would defend their right to do it.
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:24 PM
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Doesn't censoring what you put on your target a violation of your free speech? If someone wanted to shoot at an American flag I would not like it but I would defend their right to do it.
Right on with that, at-least one good thing about living in VA is we can shoot any-type of humanoid targets (even zombies ones).
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:49 AM
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ADAM,

Perhaps you missed my point.

How many states have a dozen high quality public shooting ranges subsidized by the state treasury? If the trade-off for having all those public ranges is an element of political correctness, it seems to me that is a "reasonable sacrifice."

One can practice and improve his/her shooting skills satisfactorily with conventioal bullyeye targets.

Sometimes we shooters get too rigid with our demands and expectations.

gold40


There should not have to be any trade-offs or "reasonable sacrifice". A target is a target. It is just a piece of paper with ink on it. I personally am tired of trade-offs.
What about the other sides demands and expectations? They get more rigid and intrusive every day.
I have a lot more to say but I will leave it at that and be civil.
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Old 06-05-2009, 02:30 PM
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My club in northeastern Mass also prohibits any human sillouette targets. I think it's ludicrous. Do they think if you shoot at a human-like target, that you'll be more prone to shoot at an actual person? The laws in Mass-hole really get to me sometimes.

I even asked our Board (of Directors) of we could have animal sillouette targets on the range. Their answer: No. What about is rifle-shooters who want to hone our skills for hunting (correct shot placement, etc.)? It's truly absurd. But it's OK for the archers to have their 2D (sillouette) and 3D targets. Is that hippocritical or what? (I think the next time I am on the archery range, I will pin up a picture of Obama to shoot at...I'd like to see what they would say about that.).
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Old 06-05-2009, 02:36 PM
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Win75,

You have a keen head for figuring. I used that very same line at the Board meeting before the humanoid ban took effect: "A target is just a target." I added that we should require shooters to take down their targets when done and put them in the trash cans provided.

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Old 06-05-2009, 05:28 PM
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Ah, yes.....P.C.ness at it's finest (or worst!).....maybe if we quit using those Osama bin Laden targets, and Obama smiles at them enough, the whole muslim world will accept us with open arms (and no bombs strapped to their chests!).
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