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Old 11-23-2010, 10:47 AM
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Alliant vs Hodgdon

This isn't a 'which is better' thread, but rather, what is going on with Alliant?
I have used Alliant powders since the late 70's (back when they were Hercules), and have been quite satisfied with what they did. I've used Red dot, Green Dot, Unique, Herco, Blue Dot, 2400, and STEEL. I love the versatility of Unique & Herco, and have some accurate loads with cast bullets and Green dot in my 9mm.
About 10 years ago, I started using some Hodgdon powders (Universal), and bought some Longshot when I started reloading bismuth.
Recently, I have been trying to use up older powders in my cabinet, so I'm looking for loads (target-1 oz) for the 16 gauge. I find about a 3rd of a can of Longshot, so I go to Hodgdon's website and find that they have 1 oz loads listed, so I use that up. I also find a partial can of Universal, so I load that up as well. I recently bought some Unique for pistol loads, and I know I've used it in the past for 1 oz 16 gauge loads, so I went to the Alliant website to look it up, and they have no 1 oz loads listed for the 16 gauge! So I went back and checked some old data books I had, and sure enough...there was the load I was looking for.
I quickly checked out a few other loads on Alliant's site; the majority were anemic compared to what was listed in the flyer I have. I was quite disappointed to see that maybe 25-30% of the loads I have in my flyer weren't listed.
I know that Alliant revised it's data for Blue dot for some magnum handgun loads, and was told this was done because of 'legal issues'......but to slash it's load listings as drastically as they did?

I will continue to use the older data I have and will continue to buy Alliant powders; I'm too darn old to switch now! But, I'm wondering about the newer generation of shooters/hunters/reloaders coming up.....will they bother with Alliant powders if they can't find data for what they want to reload for?

I'm thinking Alliant is shooting itself in the foot here (Metophorically speaking, of course!)
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