.45 colt rifle

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I an opportunity to buy a NEF Survivor .410/.45 Colt from a friend of mine for a extremely low price; however, I am wondering if any one knows how well the Survivor model .45 colt works on whitetail. In my state we are not allowed to use a .410 on deer, so I would be limited to using the Colt option of the gun for larger animals.

I am looking of all the info/input I can get on the NEF SURVIVOR .410/.45 colt. I have read all the literature on the older T/C version of this, but can't find anything on how well the NEF shoots at longer distances 100 yards or LESSS for a brush gun.

All input on this firearm appreciated.

[Rocky Raab]

Well, the 45 Colt is certainly effective on deer inside 100 yards. I've never seen or heard a report about the NEF rifle version of the .410/.45 Colt though.

[PJgunner]

I just got rid of a Winchester M94 chambered to the Colt 45 round. It wasn't too hard to work up a load with the Lyman #457191 that duplicated the old black powder 45-60 round. The only problem I had was the Winchester's twist rate was too slow for a 310 gr. bullet and accuracy sucked big time. It probably would have have worked just fine on deer out to a bit over 100-125 yards.
Paul B.

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What concerns me about the NEF survivor is the .410/.45 Colt deal. IT is chambered for .45 and the .410 is small enough to fit into the chamber as well. It has a removable choke tube when shooting .45. The gun is FULLY RIFLED and the choke is a straight choke for the .410 so the shot will stop twisting so much when shooting Shot.

Check out the NEF survivor website:

http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/ShotgunsAndRifles/survivor.aspx

[Mickey Rat]

That gun is not much use for deer. The site shows ONLY a bead front sight, so it is a shotgun, not a rifle. You won't be able to properly sight it in to hit well at any real distance, maybe 25 yards and a 4-5 inch group. If the gun had a rear sight it might just work

FYI: H&R has an auxillary barrel program (customer service then aux barrel program) for their guns. Your gun is an SB-1 and can only be fitted with shotgun barrels (except 10 ga) and their muzzle loader barrels.

Two sight options from H&R: Williams FP Peep sight (60.00) or a scope mount (18.00). Either will require the gun be drilled & tapped (about 10.00 a hole). You might have a rear sight mounted on it and then check it out for grouping. The downside here it that it will still be a cheap gun.

I picked up a H&R in 243 last year to take on a PD hunt. I was all set to get several extra barrels when I realized that the trigger just wasn't up to precision shooting. It is fine for deer sized targets, but PD's @ 300 yds is something else! I sold the gun and bought a Savage FVSS in 223 (Varmint Stock, 26" fluted bull rarrel w/acutrigger...$800.00). I also bought a 24" ss bull barrel target flat top upper for my AR-15 ($385.00 w/bolt). The Savage stayed in the truck for the 1st afternoon and the next 2 days. The AR was THE setup for PD's. The Savage just didn't have the quick follow up shot.

I have a 18" barrel stainless steel Brazilian copy of the Winchester 1892 in 45 Colt. It is a tack driver. I can hold 2" groups @ 50 yards and 4"-5" groups @ 100 yards with the open sights, and it is just plain FUN to shoot.

I also have a stainless steel rifle version that is 454 Casull. It has the magazine tube conversion (can be loaded like a big 22LR). It has a longer barrel and a recoil pad and it NEEDS it. That sucker KICKS!