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08-04-2008, 08:56 AM
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H&R Handi Rifle 45-70
Well my buddy backed out of the 308 deal (kinda figured he would he really liked that gun) and I was in a pawn shop during vacation and found a BRAND NEW H&R Handi Rifle in 45-70 with iron sights, and tapped for a scope. Price was $270. Just couldn't let it go. Guess I will get to play with the big bore rifle boys now.
 Only down side was the pawn shop was the ONLY place in town with any ammo and they had ONE box of leverlution ammo only. Bleh. Now I need to find some lead ammo to go with this box of pointed plastic shtick. GoodOlBoy
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08-04-2008, 08:08 PM
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If you can get past the trigger pull you will like the handi-rifle.
They used to do a bit of free trigger work and(at a small cost) fit a second barrel if you sent the rifle to the nef people.
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08-04-2008, 09:56 PM
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The only thing I can tell you is when you shoot it HANG ON TIGHT! Never shot one in .45-70, but I did shoot one in .500 S&W and could fire 50 round at 1 setting through the handgun easier than 5 through the NEF. I do know a couple of guy that like to play with that rifle, but I think all of them are shooting cast bullet and way below max.
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08-05-2008, 11:59 AM
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GOB, don't worry too much about the recoil. I've been shooting one for about 8 years it hasn't hurt me and I sight in off the bench. I made my trigger adjustable but I hear the new models have a much better trigger, out of the box. I'm gonna take mine deer hunting this year.
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08-05-2008, 04:24 PM
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I shoulda posted it here!
45-70 vs .450M
I've got 1 in 45-70 and it's a pussy cat in comparison to the .450 Marlin rd. WHUT A THUMPER!  Hunter
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08-05-2008, 05:34 PM
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Been fiddlin with it, just dry firin etc. Trigger pull is nice on it. I mean yea it ain't a 1/16th pound gnat farter but I like it. Just can't wait to get out there with it.
GoodOlBoy
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(Moderator - Gear & Gadgets, Cowboy Action, SouthWest Regional, Small Game) GoodOlBoy@huntchat.com For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - John 3:16 KJV Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. - Ecclesiastes 8:15 KJV "The gun has been called the great equalizer, meaning that a small person with a gun is equal to a large person, but it is a great equalizer in another way, too. It insures that the people are the equal of their government whenever that government forgets that it is servant and not master of the governed." - 40th President of the United States Ronald Reagan 1911-2004
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08-05-2008, 07:18 PM
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If the trigger is good then you will like it.
The few i have shot had the trigger reworked. (Made lesss harsh at the factory). Maybe they started polishing a bit at the factory instead of the recall shop. They all just bought a second factory barrel and got the trigger job free. The 500 S&W version is now legal in Indiana for deer see if they have one of those in that Pawn shop for me. I have the 45-70 in 20 inch barrel on a t/c contender gen 1 with a small 4X scope, Same concept. Try a wrist cartridge holder you can reload fairly fast with it. If you handload you can get a remarkable increase in power safely in the Handi. The 45-70 is stuck in the low SAMI rating since there are 100 year old guns. The 500 S&W is chambered with much higher than you will want to push the 45-70 so it will handle a mildy hot to hot 45-70 load.
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I don't know but I've been told it's hard to swim with the weight of gold. On the other hand I have heard it said it's just as hard with the weight of lead.
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08-05-2008, 09:26 PM
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Just in case you feel you need to tweak it a little.
http://www.perkloafm.com/downloads.html
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#9
08-06-2008, 02:07 PM
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H&R Handi Rifle 45-70
Pet Loads by Ken Waters has two articles on the 45-70s; one on the rifle types and one on the different loads in three different power (pressure) levels. You really ought to read both. The loading data is mainly for smokeless powder, but you could have a hoot shooting black through that basic single shot. Black powder recoil is entirely different and velocity is around 1400 fps.
Pressures and velocity are much higher with smokeless powder.
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09-26-2008, 11:05 AM
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I have 45-70 handi rifle. It's a great rifle.
I hand load the rounds. The factory 45-70 ammo is a bit weak. I worked up a load that groups nice and hits like a truck. That was my deer rifle of choice for a number of seasons and took 3 deer with it. One ran around 50 yards and the other two dropped where I hit them. I put a variable power shotgun scope on mine.
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