91 yr old war criminal arrested

[Rapier]

Well guys, I am back, been gone for a couple of weeks, working at the farm, on "Vacation."

Jeez where to start: I know
"Alright, so I went and read the initial paragraphs of Wiki for this guy. He has been tried in Israel, the US, and finally found guilty when he was tried in Germany just recently. The man is in a wheelchair and a nursing home. Does it really matter at this point?"

No comment of ignorant statements like that.

Wiki is a publicly edited source. I regularly edit errors off of Wiki's pages. What a poor choice of information to quote.

Really guys, I suggest you read a few books:
The Theory and Practice of Hell
The Knights of Bushido
A Torch To the Enemy
The Night Hamburg Died
Mengele
Defeat In The East
Commandant of Auschwitz
The Divine Wind
Kamikaze

What you get from these books is a picture of why things happened and how they happened. You cannot take a single incident out of the context of the war and claim it is an example of anything. Why? Because the war was a 6 year or so series of actions and reactions required for the war itself to carry forward. However, certain aspects of the war were not war at all, they were covered by the war, similar to the set people in a movie. People talk about the Jews, but the Jews were just the tip of the iceberg. Read the statistics about the loss of people. The Russian loss is staggering, some 23 million estimated, mostly civilians. These were not lost in a cross fire during battle, they went into the hole or into ash, with the Jews, Gypsies, etc.

Most of you apparently rely on movies, TV programs, etc to form an opinion. I am of an age and have the interest, since very early childhood, to study books, interview participants and go to places where some of the events occurred. I belonged to the 101st Airborne Div during a time when about 30% of the Division was made up of WWII vets. I looked for them and talked to them while I was in uniform. It was the 101st that spearheaded our assault across Europe and they were first to find many of the 'Camps." You would do well, those of you who think old is reason to forgive, to talk to the people that were there yourself. I will guarantee one reaction; you will never forget the experience.

How bad was Japan, you should talk to members of the Airborne that jumped into the PI and liberated the JAP camps they were in many ways worse than the German camps. Or the Marines who took back the little islands after the surrender, where US Prisoners were herded into trenches and burned alive using gasoline poured on them, so they would not tell of their torture and killing. You would never forget that either. Let us not forget a small thing known as "The Rape of Nan king" where the Japs murdered 250,000 to a half million civilians AFTER the city surrendered. The oriental people in the Pacific lost millions of souls, not due to war, but occupation by a brutal animal they call the Japanese Army. Their atrocities are so profound one must make a list and under C include cannibalism, as documented events. Heard about it, no? Why not? Perhaps it is Sony, Nissan, etc. are still run by Japanese Army officers, never tried.

German concentration camp guards were not just a poor GI sent to do his duty. They could always transfer to combat units. Most camp guards stayed not because of what you suspect, self-preservation, nope, they were selected to start with for brutality. Their prisoners were animals and were going to die. The Germans found out early on that a regular GI could not stand the repeated killings, so with typical efficiency; they selected replacements that could and would kill again and again without EFFECT. That is what you are looking at, not a poor old man, but a mass murderer hand picked by a government as a killing machine, a killer of innocents.

Cabbage soup was served daily, why, look it up.
Ed

[skeet]

Originally Posted by Rapier

How bad was Japan, you should talk to members of the Airborne that jumped into the PI and liberated the JAP camps they were in many ways worse than the German camps. Or the Marines who took back the little islands after the surrender, where US Prisoners were herded into trenches and burned alive using gasoline poured on them, so they would not tell of their torture and killing. You would never forget that either. Let us not forget a small thing known as "The Rape of Nan king" where the Japs murdered 250,000 to a half million civilians AFTER the city surrendered. The oriental people in the Pacific lost millions of souls, not due to war, but occupation by a brutal animal they call the Japanese Army. Their atrocities are so profound one must make a list and under C include cannibalism, as documented events. Heard about it, no? Why not? Perhaps it is Sony, Nissan, etc. are still run by Japanese Army officers, never tried.

German concentration camp guards were not just a poor GI sent to do his duty. They could always transfer to combat units. Most camp guards stayed not because of what you suspect, self-preservation, nope, they were selected to start with for brutality. Their prisoners were animals and were going to die. The Germans found out early on that a regular GI could not stand the repeated killings, so with typical efficiency; they selected replacements that could and would kill again and again without EFFECT. That is what you are looking at, not a poor old man, but a mass murderer hand picked by a government as a killing machine, a killer of innocents.

And some of those reasons are why I do not think we should forgive or forget. My uncle was one of those liberating guys in the Pacific. He very seldom spoke of the experiences..or of the powers that were telling them to NOT talk of them. The Japanese were in some ways worse than the Germans..much worse. Especially to our prisoners of war...Many of the Jap military thought of the people who surrendered to be of no use..A real man would not surrender...would fight to the death. So therefor whatever he did to a prisoner was alright. The prisoner was less than human anyway, afterall. And Ed is correct From what I have read and learned first hand..the guards in the European camps HAD to do this murder everyday...the average person could not endure such a thing unless somewhat deranged. It is surprising that we had very little retaliation by the American and Allied troops in The European theater. In the Pacific though..you should talk to the men that were there. They had very little regard for the people they were killing. Most, I think, just realized it was either kill the enemy or they would be killed. It was truly brutal. To many of the American troops it was incomprehensible