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Old 09-09-2005, 04:50 PM
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It reminds me of another phenomena I've seen a few times. Not to bring up another firefighter story, but more than once I've been at a barn fire where the animals are herded out to safety only to run back into the burning barn where they feel safe. Believe me, they'll run over you to get back in. Must be a deep instinct in some people too.
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:46 PM
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In this situation, everybody should be taken out. These people do not have TV, phones, or other lines of communicaiton. They do not know how bad the devastation is and that they will not be getting fresh water and food in a long time. They cannot fathom that staying behind is the equivalent of a death sentence.

I think most rational people, if told they had to choose between their property or their life, and there was no way to have both, would figure out that they could get more property with their life, but once they lose their life, that is it.
Let me make it clear that I strongly agree the city of New Orleans should be evacuated, for humanitarian reasons as well as a host of other practical considerations.

Having said that, I'd be interested in hearing from you precisely what chapter, book and verse empowers "the government", federal, state or local, to take such action. I realize you may not be well-versed in Louisiana statutes, so since this is somewhat hypothetical, relevant sections of the United States Code or applicable Maryland law will suffice.
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Old 09-10-2005, 09:12 AM
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Skinny, this limk might help.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/09/na...l/09storm.html
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Old 09-10-2005, 10:40 AM
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Aim to Maim,

I have never had to deal with this issue before, so it would involve legal research on my part. Hence, giving you Louisianna law would be just as easy and researching Maryland law.

The places I would start would be with condemnation statutues wherein people are required to leave the residence. On the federal side, I would start with what the federal government can do if it declares martial law. The research would probably provide something, problem is that I just don't have hours to spend on this today.

Everybody thinks that lawyers should be able to whip this stuff up without a problem. My clients complain like hell when they see 4 hours billed to them for legal research because they think the answer is at my fingertips.

To be honest with you, I am curious about it too. I just don't have the time this morning. If I find anything later today, I'll be sure to post it.
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Old 09-10-2005, 10:54 AM
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Didn't take as long as I thought it would.

It is amazing what I can find on the internet by doing searches. Of course, I was trained to do this stuff because the legal software search engine works just like these search engines for the internet.

Anyway, here is a CNN article addressing the legal issues that allow mandatory evacautions.

http://premium.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/0...ial.law.qanda/
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Old 09-10-2005, 11:01 AM
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I found this.
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchas...artial-law.php
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Old 09-10-2005, 08:21 PM
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Billy D, you say that the Netherlands have not had problems with flooding, but thats incorrect.
Back in 1953, many thousands died, and as a result, billions were spent over 25 years to improve the protection. They are fairly confident now, that they are protected, but they are aware that nature is not to be trifled with, and thousands could die again.
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Old 09-11-2005, 07:44 AM
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Dog, did you happen to read the article about the illegal aliens also on that link?
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