Next President and why

[skeeter@ccia.com]

Yes so true A to M. As Frasier would say, people do listen. No excuse for letting the fingers talk before my brain was awake and I spoke of Huck instead of Richardson. OOps...I do think Huckleberry (as our favorite story teller calls him) did well with the tax relief he promised while governor. He at least followed through with his promise to the people unlike our Pa goobernor. Two times elected by I still can't figure out who (gamblers) and we are still waiting for property tax relief. (But we are getting casinos) I guess that would be a plus for Ole Huck. Just about any Republican but McCain is not the man for our President. I don't like his stand on the second for one. Too soft. Juli? Na. As for the dems, it is just a race to be a first. First woman or first black man. That is all. In the later, I think the VP will be an important factor. Richardson is one that has dropped out and is the one I was seeing as wanting to be VP to Clinkton. Maybe since he worked for them he figured he had a chance but is still suckin up to all the Dems..to be VP? Gotta watch who is VP if dems get elected.

[DON WALKUP]

guys. guys...i hate to say this and i'm going to choke on it, but i believe h-h-h-hilllary is most likely to be our next CIC simply as a result of the remark she made that "i promise gas prices will go down the day after i become president..."

i watched a financial news segment on tv yesterday and the wall street/financial gurus are finally admitting that the oil prices are driving us into recession/inflation.

it doesn't take a genius to figure out that paying $3.50 for a gallon of gasoline/deisel (actually, deisel is closer to $4.00 a gallon where i live) bites deep into the pockets of ANYONE and everyone who drives for whatever the reason.

the high prices of oil is killing the RV industry, raising food prices thru the ceiling etc and congress and govts are going to do NOTHING to stop it. why? they get more revenue from it, that's why.

if people believe hh-h-h-hillary can get those prices down...they'll vote for her...

[Rocky Raab]

Oh it sounds good, and it'll get her some votes all right.

But would someone tell me how the President can legally change an entire PRIVATE industry based on supply and demand in one day?


There are only two ways: She could issue a Presidential Proclamation that reduces or eliminates the Federal Gas Tax (a DEMOCRAT lowering taxes? Yeah, right!)

Or she could nationalize the oil industry - which is socialism, plain and simple. And it wouldn't be the last. Next would be electrical power, medicine, airlines, and more.

Of course, she IS a socialist, so that'd be my prediction. Like the old saw says, be careful what you wish for, you might get it.

[Rocky Raab]

Of course, there are two other options for her.

She could release the National Petroleum Reserves, which would in fact lower gas prices...by a few cents and for only a few weeks. But she COULD say she lived up to her promise. Slimeball that she is.

OR, she could do like Slick did with his "cut taxes" promise. Right after the election, she'd say "You know, I tried, and I've never worked harder at anything in my life, but I can't cut gas prices. In fact, we have to raise the gas tax because everybody lied to me about the real situation." Cloned slimeball.

[LoneWolf]

I'm a Fred fan myself. And I seem to hear many people say he's their man, yet he is doing so poorly so far. While I'd like to think he's waiting for the right moment... how much longer can he wait to jump ahead?
I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[skeeter@ccia.com]

wow Rock, I can hear her saying those exact words....Would be kind of like our Pa governor saying he has to increase the gas tax by a few cents a gallon in one breath then in the next breath says he stopped the gas tax increase because he didn't go through with it...how is that for a pat on the back and going nowhere. Increase tax one day then take it back the next and take credit for cutting a tax.... Now all this talk about our leaders dropping the gas prices is this going to be after they let the 40cent highway tax go into effect? I did hear Bush is over talking to the Arabs trying to get them to pump more oil to help with our economy. If they think they have us by any kind of hairs, why would they pump more oil to help America? They say high oil costs is sinking our economy then why would they even talk about raising the fuel tax by 40 cents a gal?

[fabsroman]

Honestly, I have no idea how any politician can promise lower gas prices. As a nation, we just need to get used to the higher gas prices, and we need to start thinking about alternative fuels. I honestly think twice before I jump in the car and go for a spin. If there isn't a good reason for it, I don't go. I also try to get as many things done in a single trip as I possibly can.

[Lilred]

I do believe there will be a record amount of voters at the polls this year...my sister will be votin fer Hillary I think. The traitor!
We usually avoid political converstion...but I thought it was my civic duty to at least ask WHY she would do such a thing
Needless to say, that was on Christmas day...and I've only talked once to her since lol


She'll git over it, me and her are as different as black and white, you wouldnt believe it. But I was curious as to what she thought Hillary would do for our country. Gas prices was second on her list...

[Rocky Raab]

The reason it sounds like a Clinton, skeeter, is because that's the exact line Bill used about his promised tax cut, his first election. It lasted until about a week after the inauguration.

Folks, it may be hard to believe, but WE are the ones setting gas prices. Not directly, but through the futures traders on Wall Street. Now, I'm an enthusiastic investor - but not in futures.

When futures traders bid that they'll pay $100 a barrel for oil three months from now, that's darn well what they're going to be paying. If the idjits would stop trading in oil futures (or be forced to), this spiral would wind itself down. It isn't OPEC that's setting the price, it's future traders who are setting the offers.

As an alternative, if I were running the thing, I'd tell all those foreign oil producers that from now on, we'll match oil barrel price with wheat bushel price. You wanna eat? Either cough up billions or cut the oil price. Or eat sand.

[Dan Morris]

Originally posted by Rocky Raab
The reason it sounds like a Clinton, skeeter, is because that's the exact line Bill used about his promised tax cut, his first election. It lasted until about a week after the inauguration.

Folks, it may be hard to believe, but WE are the ones setting gas prices. Not directly, but through the futures traders on Wall Street. Now, I'm an enthusiastic investor - but not in futures.

When futures traders bid that they'll pay $100 a barrel for oil three months from now, that's darn well what they're going to be paying. If the idjits would stop trading in oil futures (or be forced to), this spiral would wind itself down. It isn't OPEC that's setting the price, it's future traders who are setting the offers.

As an alternative, if I were running the thing, I'd tell all those foreign oil producers that from now on, we'll match oil barrel price with wheat bushel price. You wanna eat? Either cough up billions or cut the oil price. Or eat sand.

Good thought...however, arn't we GIVING the wheat? 'Hands across the sea'?
Dan

[Rocky Raab]

Probably. That's why I'd make it a swap, even up. Heck, I'd maybe even offer 'em two bushels per barrel. But remind them that when their oil fields go dry, we'll still be growing wheat and corn, so expect to pay for it.

[Dan Morris]

I'll support that!
Dan

[DON WALKUP]

congress needs to get offa their collective arses and open up drilling for our own oil! we have the technology, and the resources, to do it more environmentally soundly than in years past.

we need to stop buying oil from the saudi's and venezuela...we're providing them the income to finance terrorists among other things.



and yes we need to continue the quest for alternative fuel sources...but, do you think a vehicle powered by ethanol/gasahol/LNG/LPG/solar would tow your 25ft trailer/toy-hauler and get more than 3 MPG? not with today's technology.

here in the area where i live, diesel is nearing $4.00 per gallon. it's TRIPLED in cost in the last three years. unleaded regular is near $3.50 per gallon.

our congress does NOT help the AVERAGE american at all. even chuck shummer recoginizes that; he wrote a book about congress being out of touch with reality. ( cannot recall the title at the moment)

hillary will do nothing different...and i sincerely doubt any other newly elected pres will be able to much either; dem or republican.

in the end, it's all about one thing...$$$$$$$$$

[skeeter@ccia.com]

Kwik Fill gas is our own oil from our own fields. They stress that fact on tv all the time. Kwik fill gas prices at the pump is the same as any other station. How are you helping by buying from there? Where the problem sits in a lot of the cases is the EPA air quality rules in different areas. They need to make the quality the same then thy wouldn't have to make one formula for Pa, another for Ohio another for Idaho..while they (refinery) are making it for Idaho standards, they are getting behind in the demnad in Pa. Then there is the supply and demand rule...Tax isn't helping at pump (so lets add $.40) and I know Kfill needs to keep up with the rest of the world but what if we now buy only Kfill gas and pass on sunoco or what ever? Now who will follow that plan? Not I said the guy next door. I won't sit in line when this one is open. Hurray for me. I have had small cars and I need my truck now. I hate to pay at the pump but I can't carry my tools in a small car. I think the trade for wheat and oil is a great idea and now we need to pass that rule. How can we get our government back to the people? Elections? We do that now. We need to meet at the courthouse steps with our signs like they did back in the 60's ... at least now the police won't be able to beat us with clubs etc etc.. We need a President that came from our ranks....not born into the ranks like Bush. Someone from the bottom.... Lilred?..you doing anything the next 8 yrs?

[skeet]

Kinda been gone for a while. Darn ladders etc.. But it is a little known fact that we buy the majority of our oil..not from the Saudi's or Venezuela...but from the Country of Canada. Yes boys and girls right from the north. Everybody thinks we went to Iraq to steal the oil. Well if that is so...let's invade Canada and steal the oil from there. LOTS closer for certain. It ain't happening y'all. Second is a tossup..between Mexico and Saudi Arabia. This global economy thing really isn't working...especially for the good ol US of A. or the other countries we are allied with. We got the Nafta thing passed with the help of the members of Congress who are supported strongly by our own Unions . Now the powers that wanna be want to give our rights away in the name of the UN. What is wrong with the politicians or the wanna be's of this country. We need to take to the streets like Skeeter said just to make ourselves be heard?? The politicians we have bnow know that the American sheeple are just that..lambs to the slaughter..yeah you all in Canada too. Can't even shoot a handgun on your own farm?? C'mon! We all need to wake up and smell the coffee.... before it's too late!