Next President and why

[Jack]

Fabs, rather than me flounder through trying to explain a law to a lawyer, take a look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mccain-feingold

[Tennessee Elkman]

After reading all these posts and the hundereds of posts I've read on this forum I have a question for most of the posters and readers out there. Are you better off today then you were 8 years ago? If you own your own business like me, you answer is probably no. I certainly am not, and I voted for "DUBBYA". What a mistake that has been. So these are my choices? Hillary the b***h according to all the write ups or the muslim in sheeps' clothing.
Jack and Rocky,
Another huge factor for the diesel fuel prices higher than gasoline is as simple as this. If you are involved in shipping or receiving ANYTHING bought or sold in the U.S.A., there are shipping costs and fuel surcharges placed on everything from beanie-weenies to boats, RV's and automobiles. So the truckers who grid locked Washington D.C. many moons ago now don't worry about the cost of fuel since it is BEING PASSED ALONG TO THE CONSUMER!!!! Ands you can thank DUBBYA for that also. How could I have been so stupid to vote for him.
I'm glad Fred dropped out because I might have made the same mistake in voting I did 4 & 8 years ago. I ate lunch and went to a Titans game with him a few years back and he's a great guy but I just can't deal with some of the things this political party does or brings to the table. Again, just me 2 cents worth....

[skeet]

I have to just say this. Am I better off now than 4 or 8 yrs ago? Nope..Was I better off in the previous 8 yrs?? NOPE. What makes you think that you are going to be better off in any future time?? The liberals in the government are not going to leave. The middle level bureaucrats are the ones that really run this country. Ya think not? They can't be gotten rid of...they keep making themselves more and more important and they keep expanding their powers. If you think not just look at the welfare beaurocracy. Look at the ones who run it. If you really need help from that agency...you'd better have some strong help politically. The problems this country are facing right now have been coming since the late 80's early 90's...maybe before. When NAFTA was passed we lost big time. Also lost when the powers that be decided that we(the US) would be the worlds policeman(1970's BTW Jimmy Carter). We lost a lot of jobs with NAFTA and a lot of money being the policeman. The war on Terror has been an expensive proposition but in my opinion it has been working. We haven't been "attacked" as we were in 9-11. again. At least not yet. If we did not pursue this course I can tell ya that it would have happened again by now. Those namby pamby liberals would have given in to those low life scum by now otherwise....and as they say do we have the resolve to save ourselves? I can guarantee you that osamma bama or Hillary will not do what is necessary to save this country. And to be honest I wonder if there is anyone in the other parties who have the resolve either. Maybe McCain but I doubt it. Personally I feel that if you are concerned with money only then you don't deserve or should expect to keep the other rights that you enjoy in this country. Vote your pocketbook...but when the gestapo comes for your guns or to take away any other rights remember with whom the blame lies!!

Oh and by the way..not flaming you personally..just had it up to my neck with people saying am I better off? Heck no... and I've never been better off after any presidential term in office. And I doubt if any one can say they were. May have made more money...but it sure as hell cost more to live too!!

[jplonghunter]

skeet

You have it right my friend,the bureaucrats drive the agenda in Washington and until we the people take it back our republic is not going to improve. Regardless of who is elected as President. JMHO

jplonghunter

[Tennessee Elkman]

Voting my pocketbook might be our last defense with the options we have on the Presidential ballot. Without $$$ I can't buy the guns I'm hiding from the Gestapo.
Look, I understand your point of view and I think we are saying the same thing....THERE IS NO CLEAR CHOICE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! When this country picks of next President and only 25%-30% of registered voters cast there ballots and the winner wins by less than a 10% margin, have we really elected the best choice for this country or have we given the Presidential position to a candidate with the most money, by default. I am convinced, from whatever side of the political fence you stand becoming our CIC is not rocket science, but who you know and who you.... Money changes everything, just ask Cindi Lauper.(Lame 80's reference) Don't believe it? Obama mama raised $32,000,000.00 in the month of January alone. Are you kidding me? What do we need to do to have a President who has read and believes in what our constitution stands for?

[skeet]

Voting your pocketbook is nothing but a lame excuse. If you don't vote your conscience...meaning voting for what is right then you are giving your rights away. Do I see a GOOD candidate? Of course not! But as Rocky said...I'd vote for a syphilitic orangutang than any or either of the Dems that will only tell you what they think is best for you...give more money to the non working leeches in this country and take everything from you to pay for it...as well as taking all the other rights and privileges you enjoy in this country. In 8 yrs with Osama and or Hillary you will have nothing left..not even what you think you are hiding. And NO...you won't be better off in 4 or 8 yrs no matter what you think now. Between Greenspan tax cuts and what the Repubs have done we have staved off the money woes that we have coming up in the near future. But the way the dems do things you'll be paying more and more taxes to pay for the ill advised things the liberals will foist on to us in the future. You know...I hid a few bucks and some other things during the BIG Y2K debacle.. I may have done it at the wrong time. Might be time to hide items that will mean real wealth in the future. Glad i have a little gold and silver and arms and ammo. All will be worth infinitely more in the future than they are now. Maybe even food! Oh in case you are wondering..yep I am REALLY worried!

[Tennessee Elkman]

Options are like...... well you know the rest. Perhaps you could find an island in the south pacific to rule over. SKEET ISLAND! Population 1 and don't anybody else come in! You can take your gold and silver and live of the land! A dream come true! No taxes, no worries, nothing to complain about. SKEET'S FANTASYLAND! Maybe you could build rides and have shows like a theme park!
Come on man! Wake up and quit blaming the government for everthing and start looking at friends, family, fellow bloggers, etc. and blame them for putting the moroms in the office in the first place. Politicians are the worst and we have no one to blame but ourselves. "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone..."

[skeet]

You were blaming GW for all the woes we are now and in the future going to enjoy. I also know there is no free lunch..especially for people that really care. They just make us pay. I don't blame the government ..at least the elected government. I blame people that vote their pocketbooks cause that is all they care about..their pocketbooks and what is it going to do for them. . And you ask are we better off now than we were 8 yrs ago. Look in the mirror. I also know there is no way to get away from all of it. No matter where you live or what you do it costs something to live...even if it is sweat equity. The people who vote for candidates such as the 2 democrats actually deserve what the get...sadly those idiots make the rest of us lose what we hold dear. I've never voted my pocketbook and don't think I ever will. Sadly I feel that too many look at the world through the same glasses you have. What is in it for me is their creedo! And with that said...I am done as greesd rules(and ruins) too many peoples lives

[Jack]

I think it's a foregone conclusion that our next President, no matter what party they come from , will have to raise taxes. Why?
To lower the budget deficit. For the last 8 years, no one in government has had the guts to say that we're spending more than we're taking in. It's been easier to just say 'let the next guy solve the problem'.
Some of our more cynical politicians have discovered that we're dumb enough to elect them as long as they promise us tax cuts, and to spend tons of money on pork barrel projects like the bridge to nowhere.
You can blame one party, or beaurocrats, or black helicopters if you want. The truth is, that kind of irresponsible spending goes on because we let it go on.

[LoneWolf]

Jack, its been proven time and again, that rasing taxes doesn't give the gov't more money. Lowering them does. The larger problem is not them having more money, but finding ways to spend less.
In answer to a question posted ealier... yes I am better off than I was 8 yrs ago. But not just because of GW. I haven't waited to see what the gov't will do for me. I have busted my butt, worked harder, and tried to raise my children in the belief of nothing is free, there is no extra credit, and there is nothing you can't do... just things you haven't tried yet.

The biggest problem I have in the upcoming election is who I will vote for vs. who I'd have liked to vote for. I'm with Rocky on anyone but the Dem candidates, but I am really stuck on the Rep side. The guy I really felt I connected with was Fred, who has dropped out now. I really can't understand why he didn't step up more and push his beliefs. So now I look at the remainders. When I do the internet thingy that asks you questions on where you stand, it comes up with McCain then Romney. Thing is I McCain scares the hell out of me. Everything he supposedly is for, history shows the opposite. Except for his gun control stance, which so far I haven't found evidence that he has flip flopped on. Romney is for some gun control, but most of his beliefs are not mine.
So what do we do come November? Last I looked there isn't a box "none of the above, start over"

[Jack]

"Jack, its been proven time and again, that rasing taxes doesn't give the gov't more money"
I'd question that, as you can easily prove it not to be true, too. Lowering taxes to increase revenue was tried in the 80's, and resulted in a budget deficit going from 77 billion to 334 billion.
In 2000, there was a budget surplus, and taxes were lowered- and now we have a deficit again- a big one.
It'd be nice to think you can lower taxes and make the deficit go away- it'd be nice to think you can run your car on water, too, and save paying for gas.
Politicians aren't stupid- they know you want to hear that budget deficits can be eliminated without raising your taxes- so they tell you that.

[LoneWolf]

I don't have the figures in front of me, or the time to search right now. Perhaps someone else knows them. But if I'm not mistaken, everytime taxes have been lowered it has resulted in more income to the gov't. The problem than falls into the gov't spending more still than what they have. Thus our deficit.

PS: I know also that when I get the money vs. the gov't I tend to spend more. Thus the economy is helped.

[Tennessee Elkman]

Perhaps the candidate who can raise the most money before the November election and clear up the deficit can be president for 4 years. Opps, there I go again, thinking from my pocketbook....

[fabsroman]

With the economy the way it is right now, I don't think the gov't can afford to raise taxes. However, I think we need a combination of both raising taxes and decreasing gov't spending to get this nation back on track. I'm not just worried about the budget deficit, but the national debt of $9,000,000,000. What is a budget deficit of $32 billion when the nation is already in debt by $9 trillion. Just think of what the interest is on $9 trillion a year. At 5% it equates to $450 billion.

Yep, I think we need to increase taxes and decrease gov't spending to get the nation back on track.

How about social security. If we were to raise the FICA tax right now an additional 3%, social security would be solvent well into the future. I could even retire and not have to worry about whether or not I would receive social security. However, whenever Americans hear that their taxes will be increased, they have a stroke.

Yes, it is bitter medicine, but it is medicine we need. Again, it cannot be done right now because the economy would completely tank, but it does need to be done. If taxes were left to a vote by the American people, it would probably be a landslide vote for no taxes, but the gov't and the nation would be up the creek without a paddle.

[gun_nut2]

In my opinion the best choice for gun owners is Huckabee and not just because he is from my home state, after all so was Slick Willy. All polls show Huckabee to be the higheswt ranking candidate against gun controll. If can not vote for him just pick a Republican. The national Democratic party is way too left wing and liberal. A vote for the Democrats is a vote to lose your guns.