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Old 02-15-2008, 10:04 AM
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I havent done any research in a couple years, but I would bet its close to the same. A couple years ago when people first started screaming about big oil making big bucks while gas went up, Mobil was working on about a 10% (plus or minus a little) profit margin. There are not many business's in the country that operate on that small of a margin. They cant. That is not an excessive amount.

Whats driving the gas price is demand, for the most part. Gas obviously isnt too high. As mentioned before, there are plenty of SUVs and big cars on the road. People are still going on vacation and travelling. When gas gets too high, you wont see those things.

Personally, I have limited my driving as much as possible. And we have gotten a gas saver car for road trips for business that saves alot. Other than that, its business as usual.

Dont blame people for making money. Especially when they arent being excessive in the first place.
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:32 PM
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It seems one party is still up in the air, while the other has it's candidate pretty well chosen.

Now, who do you think the VP choices will be for each party ??

For the Democrats, do you think the stage is big enough for BOTH Obama & Clinton ? and would either one want 2nd billing ? I think Obama would sit it out and run for the big office in '12. Hillary will take any grasp at power she can get.

On the Republican side I think this is what is keeping Huckabee in the race. Nothing wrong with that. Romney is being awful nice, so he might be looking for a place behind the Pres. during the State of the Union speeches too. Another dark horse is McCain's campaign co-chair. Gov. Pawlenty from MN.

I think it's funny how people are starting now to endorse candidates in both parties. That's kind of like picking your favorite team when they've clinched the division. If you're going to want your endorsement to mean anything have the guts to do it before the first primary shows which direction the political winds are blowing.

Anyways, what does the VP selection look like to everyone here ?
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:11 PM
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MT, I think my tv here only shows Clinton / Obama. There is no mention of any other candidates anywhere. I feel they are trying that brain wash think...people will only remember those 2 names at the vote booth.....Guess have to see who pulls ahead in the C/O race....I hate McCain but has to be better than any of the other 2. Now I hate to say it but I think Kennedy will end up on someones VP list. Obama. This can work 2 ways. Enough people don't like Kennedy and wont vote for Obama just because of that and it will cost him....or the Kennedy plan is this. Since he never stood a chance to be Pres himself, this will be his way in office because if Obama gets elected, he won't last long....sad to say but that is my feelings...First I don't trust Kennedy...the rest is history....and I think Kennedy will have his chance to be Pres. Then again we need someone maybe that has not had their hands in the till like Clinkton or Kennedy and Obama will be good for us for a change....Is going to be a scarry election....
Back when Gore was running. He visited Pittsburgh Pa at the same weekend the Lewis / Clark expedition that was tracing their path was to stop and land in Pittsburgh....They were not able to land on the point because they had 'guns'....what, black powder ones?....Gore was afraid maybe they shoot his plane down or something?...That went over big here. But a bit of true history.
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:09 AM
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Telling the companies what they can charge is like communism

Telling the oil companies what they can charge is just like communism. Next, we'll be telling the doctors, attorneys, CPA, construction contractors, plumbers, etc. what they can charge.

You guys act like Oil and Gasoline belongs to you. You haven’t done any thing to find an oil producing area or lease the right to drill or invest your money in a venture that might produce oil.

I have something to say about the first 2 lines here that have been stated in past posts...Too late for that...first of all Fabs, isn't the cost of a gallon of milk produced by the farmer government regulated? The gov says what a farmer can plant, sell and how much he can sell it for...isn't the farm a private industry? How come nothing has been said about the gov telling the private farm industry what to do but we worry about everybody else...farmer makes 5 cents a gallon on milk but it costs us almost $4 gal with the lowest gov price..oh and Fabs that farm for sale here is now 560g....and that covers the second line by Dog... the 3rd line I can say I do get a check from oil companies that own the lease on a farm in WVA for oil drilling. They just won't drill for oil...it is there...it even floats on top of the water there...they just won't drill....so guess at least I did something to venture into the production...EPA has something to do with holding up drilling.
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:51 AM
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Some of what you say is true...but the government doesn't set the price on most things the farmer produces.. They do tell ya what you can and can't plant but only if you take government subsidies such as CRP. As far as milk it is the same thing. If you are in governmet price support programs then they control the price of milk. If you as a producer want to stay in an open market program then the price is not fixed...or guaranteed. Now if ya want to go that far then any oil produced on governmet leases maybe should be price controlled. How would you control the price? Just say we won't let them sell it for more than 50 bucks a bbl and it can only be sold here in the US? As a farmer I sold my crops for the going prices...planted what i wanted and took the chances on the yield and final price. I didn't take subsidies but many farmers do...but they can buy out of those price contracts if they can see they can make more profit on their own. Hate to say it but you aren't comparing apples with apples. I am sure there are many other things you can think of though. Gummit controlled the steel industry for a while and ergo...no steel industry now. All they want to talk of now is a "global" economy...and look at the value of a dollar now...after globalization Oh BTW I do have an oil well here on the property...and I don't even own it...maybe a part but not the whole thing. You are right though...the EPA can be a pain in our A$$ or a pain in theirs
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:29 AM
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Tobacco is another private industry that has the lowest prices let by the Gov. A friend of mine and all his brothers were big big dairy cow farmers. Not a one of them got their farms through Gov loans but they were still held by rules that only milk cow farmers or gov loan farmers had to live by. Like only plant this many acres of corn etc etc.. They would just walk onto their farms with white hardhats and tell them when they were asked what they were doing on the farm to shut up or they would call in their farm loans. Well they got kicked off the land and the dairy cows were all sold. Now they do beef. Now they have no ties to the gov / farm thing. They are still big big farm people.
People say we should sell off our SUV or trucks and ride in one of those sardine cans but not all of us use our vehicles for a ride to work. Some of us use our vehicles in our line of work. Sure they use a little more gallons but that isn't the only reason oil costs $105 a gallon. Try packing a toolbox in the back seat of a hybrid next to the family. Our dollar that use to buy a barrel of oil isn't worth a dollar anymore..what is it worth now? Maybe 50 cents on the market? Now we need 2x the 50 cents to keep up with what the yen sells for. Our buck isn't a buck anymore...This is just one reason for the high oil cost. Different rules in different states on emissions set by the EPA etc etc etc...helps drive the cost at the pumps too...taxes at the pump?..What happened to the 40 cent a gallon they were talking about? Needed to pave roads. I seen them dump over $10000 worth of asphalt over a hill due the lack of one degree in temp. Gov waste at it's finest. We have to start watching out for that and get something done about it. Waste. Gov waste.
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TBO....all I have to say after looking at that film.. http://nascarulz.tripod.com/scream2.WAV
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