outside neck turning ?

[scooterman27006]

ok i have read enough about it that i am going to try it and see if it makes a difference - but i cant figure out the best equipment to use - for those of you that do the case neck on the outside what do you use and what do you think is best for the money and where do you get your figures from that you use for how much to cut down to thanks scoot

[Jack]

First of all, if you're using a factory barrel and chamber, you may be wasting your time- because factory chamber necks are often large enough that neck expansion will be rather excessive once you've thinned the case necks down. Case necks will expand quite a bit upon firing, then need to be sized down a lot during sizing. The net result of all the expansion and sizing reduction is case necks that split after a few firings.
Most neck turning is done for chambers that have rather tight necks- benchrest chambers that are cut to a specific dimension, or custom chambers that tend to be cut tighter than factory chambers.
If it's a benchrest chamber, the benchrest gunsmith will furnish a dimension that the loaded cartridge case neck must be. Often a benchrest barrel will be stamped '.262 neck', or something like that.
For a chamber that isn't a benchrest chamber, you generally cut the minimum amount off the case neck possible- just enough to cut the brass all the way around the neck. It's a cut and try procedure- you set the neck turning tool to just barely cut, and see if that cuts on all your case necks. If it doesn't, you set the cutter a hair deeper and try again.
As to what tool to use, the first step is get a Sinclair catalog, or go to their website www.sinclairintl.com. They're a great source for all the benchrest loading equipment.
I use one of their neck turners, the NT-3000 model. Wilson makes a good tool, too, and the new Forster hand tool looks decent, too. Sinclair carries all of them.

[BILLY D.]

HI SCOOT

JACK JUST ABOUT SAID IT ALL. UNLESS YOU ARE A BENCH RESTER IT IS AN EXERSISE IN FUTILITY. THE REWARDS ARE NOT THAT NOTICEABLE.

TAKE YOUR FIRED BRASS AND A FRESH BULLET, IF THE BULLET FITS INSIDE THE CASE MOUTH YOU DON'T NEED TO REAM. CLEAN THE BRASS AND RESIZE USING QUALITY SIZING DIES.

NECK TURNING TO ME SHOWED DIMINISHING RETURNS. THE GOPHERS AND COYOTES FAILED TO NOTICE ANY DIFFERENCE.

[Catfish]

I must agree with what everyone else is saying. If you have a factory chamber the only thing you will do is to shorten the life of your brass as the case necks will be worked more. A good way to tell if neck turning might help you is to fire a round in you gun and then try to slide a bullet into the just fired case. If it will slide in nack turning will do you no good at all.

[scooterman27006]

everybody i really appreciate the input - seems what i read made so much since to get the bullet off on a straight path and all but now since you fellas straightened me out i wont get to buy a new toy and spend a lot more hours on top of my normal reloading hobby lol but then again i could find an action and get one of these barrels you are talking about and get it put together so i could do all this LOL --- just like the fella that came to my house this past saturday with one of THOSE guns i had never seen - biggest blame barrel i ever saw and it had the oddest looking receiver - loads on one side and the bolt is on the other and had a big VIPER on one side -- well i thought i wanted one till he told me just how much the receiver itself cost lmao well and also after i outshot him with a remington short tactical 223 LMAO and i mean i outshot him bad - i swear it was the best that little gun ever shot - no wind mirage or nothing and it was smoking lol-- anyhow im just messin here but i really did outshoot him - he had a hhmmm 6.5/284 maybe thats what it was -- the loads he shot were junk something about the brass was not right but when this gun is right it has won the 1000 yrd stuff so i really am just messin around here --i know now not to fool with ithe trimming until i get me one of those 6 br guns which will not be anytime soon- maybe i will give it a try on some of the 220 swift stuff maybe --just a few--- just to see if it makes a difference-- thanks for the info fellas

[Cal Sibley]

I have an older Forster neck turning kit that attaches to their case trimmer. It does a pretty good job, but I haven't used it in years now. I don't thinkj there's any benefit to be gained in turning necks for factory cartridges. The chambers are generous enough to start with. Turning the necks just doesn't improve anything. Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal

[skb2706]

There are only two times I ever 'outside neck turn'. I have a custom chambered 6mm that requires turning .002" total off of most factory standard brass to get proper bullet release. If I happen to recieved some crappy brass.....kinda like the .222 Rem mag brass I got for my .204 project. I turned the outside to get a decent straight case. All of this lot was "thick on one side thin on the other". Normally I would have sent this stuff back but at the time it was my only option.