fast twist 22-250

[gdaddybill]

Just put my order in for a Encore carbine barrel in 22-250 with a 1:9 twist. Had been thinking about a 224 tth but couldn't see the advantage. This way I can shoot factory ammo in a pinch and I should be able to get stabilized loads with 55 to 75 grain 224 bullets. Plan to use the gun for small whitetails and head shots on hogs.

Any ideas on favorite loads, powders, etc. with these heavy 224 bullets in 22-250?

[Brant Buster]

He used to write for "Handloader" magazine?



Waters wrote a pretty good article about the 1-in-9 twist .22-250.

The easiest thing to do might be to find someone who has a copy of "Pet Loads." Put out by Wolf Publishing, its a collection of Water's monthly writings.

[BILLY D.]

Originally posted by Brant Buster
He used to write for "Handloader" magazine?



Waters wrote a pretty good article about the 1-in-9 twist .22-250.

The easiest thing to do might be to find someone who has a copy of "Pet Loads." Put out by Wolf Publishing, its a collection of Water's monthly writings.

Brant Buster

you have an excellent memory. Mr Waters wrote that article when hector was a puppy.

last i heard ken is doing fine. i sure miss his articles in handloader and rifle though. he was a no "BS" kind of guy and if he published a load you could bet the farm that it worked.

i followed his advice on the 220 swift. he wrote in one of his tomes that the swift didn't have to hit mach 2 to be efficient and get the job done. he sure was correct. read his material in the late 50's and early 60's. he is one of the reloading gods i respect. of course this was back in the days when you reloaded and when you had to take off your boot to knock the bolt open you knew you had a reached the optimum load. might want to back off a tad on that load. the only people that had chronographs were the ballistic labs and maybe some of the bullet companies.

this is a much more cival time that we live in now.

we are blessed.

i have a 22-250 ai, one in nine twist that i use for 1000 yd shooting. it works great untill the wind blows, then problems appear. thats when i switch to my 308. i don't shoot any thing at those ranges except paper. on a good day both will shoot sub 10" groups if i do my part.

nice talking with you.

[Brant Buster]

But thanks anyway.

I do have a knack however, for remembering numbers / combinations and dates.

Sometimes I do pick up reloading books/manuals simply to study or research questions and ideas I often come up with (this cartridge to that cartridge, how fast does XYZ go?, what's the feasibility of loading this bullet in that cartridge?, etc.).

also, its not hard to remember the Table of Contents, given time. Plus, Waters wrote about some extemporaneous topics too. The one about the 1-9 .22-250 was invaribly how to reload the .22-250 for deer.

I've killed deer with the .223 Remy AND .220 "Swooft," not that I'd recommend or make a habit of it.

[gdaddybill]

Thanks guys. I've got the Pet Loads books--I just need to dig deeper. Seems I'll have 3-4 weeks to research this project so I should be able to check this Encore 22-250 out in the Texas Hill Country this season.

[Brant Buster]

with your punie little .22-250, concentrate on developing loads for YOUR guns or 'barrel' that call for bullets 60 grains and heavier!

Two bullets I'd start with are the Nosler Partition 60grainer, and the Speer Semi-Spiter that weighs 70 grains.

I have to admit I've never had the opportunity to shoot the Nosler 60-Partition in any kind of .224 caliber, but the "partition design" married with the heavier weight (of .224 bullets) is for only one thing - humanely killing deer-size critters!

I've had excellent results from Nosler bullets and would expect the same with this one.

The Speer 70grainer is often overlooked, but it was developed for use in the .22-250 and .220 Swift - for shooting and killing deer! Speer used to state this point when listing this particualr bullet. I would trust this projectile out to 200 yards, easily/

And this one I have used, in a .223R. Bullet was a pass-through so I never found it afterward, but it left a tennis ball size hole under the hide after going through at least 14-16 inches of mule deer doe. Range was @125 yards.

Of course there are other 60-plus grain bullets too.

Barnes (I believe) makes a Triple Shock is this 'class,' and Winchester used to make a 64grainer.

The Sierra 63 grain Semi-Spitzer is a lightly constructed, thin jacketed bullet - so don't use it! I also killed a small mulie buck with that slug and was VERY LUCKY it worked out. Penetration was lousy and it was a spinal shot that put the forked-horn down. This bullet fragmented badly and didn't even make it into the chest cavity.

Good luck!

[gdaddybill]

Thanks for the input. I had those bullets in mind along with the new 62 grain triple shock, 74 grain RWS cone point and the 75 grain Scirroco.

Loaded some 335 grain LBT lead bullets for my 416 Rem Mag just in case these puny 22's don't get the job done or in case I run into a 70 pound doe with an attitude.

[gdaddybill]

Got my barrel today from SSK. Looks great and shot 5 rounds at 35 yards--on paper and close to a Bullseye. Not too happy with the Mueller scope I got for it--3x9x40. Seems to be a bit soft but after I recover from the shock of custom barrel with tsob mt. & rings I'll look for better glass.

Expect to shoot long and heavy bullets at a few hill country deer and hogs this year.

[Cossack]

If you're going to use ther 22-250 for game, I'd go with the the TSX.
Those Barnes bullets get terminal performance like bullets that are 10 grains heaver without compromising accuracy.
I shot a 130 grainer the full length of a big northern whitetail buck from the mild mannered 7/08. Oh, and did I mention 19 one-shot kills with Barnes in a row on deer using 5 chamberings ranging from 25/06 through 280? A stayed-in-his-tracks mulie at 265 yards with a 130 Barnes X. Or that a buddy of mine shot through both shoulders of a bull elk at 285 yards using a 150 gr X bullet out of a 7 SAUM?
Some one shot kills are a fluke, a perfect hit in just the right spot.... But that many clean kills can't be flukes.
Nuff said.

[gdaddybill]

Thanks for the Barnes info Cossack. I'm leaning toward the new 62 grain Triple Shok. Shot one into wet magazines (along with Winchester 64 grain and a few others) and it was the deep penetrator with perfect petals. Haven't weighed it yet but expect close to 100%.

Also found out from SSK that I needed the Katahdyn forend. Just got that so some serious range work is needed now.

[Evan03]

im thinking of doing the same project but going alittle faster with a 1/7 twist to push 70 and heaver slugs. im also going to be improved with the 40 deg shoulder.

but ive become conserned about berrel life.


pacnor lists the 6mm 22/250 improved in there list of wildcats. would this be the better way to go.

this will be my first project so id just assume keep it a 22/250 improved with a longer throat and fast 7" twist to keep thinks alittle closer to the simple side.

im not worried about velocities im looking for acuracy only . and alittle versitilty to.

what do you guys think

Thanks

Evan


ps

sorry to kinda rob the thread.

[Catfish]

Evan,
Haven`t seen your post lately, have I just been missing them or have you been gone?
I`m getting a Savage rebarreled now. I putting on a .22 cal. on the 6mm case. It will have a 1 in 9 twist and the Smith assures me that it will stablize 80 gn. bullets. He also assures me that it will push the 80 gn. bullets at 3,500 fps. That will give it 1/2 the wind drift of the .22-250 with 55 gn. bullets pushed to the max. I`ve got a friend that shoots a .22-284 and he`s pushing the 80 gn. Serrias at 3,500 and that`s what I was going to get, but the smith talked me into the 6mm case. I`m also getting a target trigger put in it. Should pick it up in Dec.

[HPBTMTCH]

Has anyone tryed the new sierra 90 gr. matchkings? I heard it takes a 6 twist in a .223. A `250 or larger case may be okay with a 1 in 7, but i don`t know what sierra themselves say. I think JLK makes one also.

[Rapier]

Catfish,
Hope the 1-9 twist works out for you. I use a 1-7 in my 22-250 AI gun and figure I could get away with a 1-8, but the 1-9, well like I said, hope it works for you.

I have not tried the 90s yet as the 80s work so well. I only push my bullets out at 3,012 fps so am just loafing along. But I have found that anything over 3,000 with the 80 is real deadly out to 800 yards. You just have to get real tight groups at 200 to do the trick on out there.
Ed

[Evan03]

havent been around in awhile.

i dont have computer of my own so i have to go to my dads and use his.

anyway i think ive decided to just go with 12 twist and push 55-60gr bullets as an around plinker. because my 2506 can take of the 75- and heavier varmit bullets and push em out there at 35-3800 depending on the bullet.

latly im playing with slow 85s by slow i mean 3000 im useing h380 to pull that off. with very good acuracy to boot