Who celebrates this crap

[Valigator]

The part about Iranians celebrating the 27th anniversay really got my goat:

U.S. officials have long accused Iran of interfering in Iraq since the 2003 overthrow of Saddam Hussein. But Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has also said that Iran has a role to play in stabilizing Iraq, whose government is Shiite, like Iran's.

Some Western experts have said they believe Iran is genuinely worried about civil conflict in Iraq and its potential to spill over. Others say they believe hardliners in Iran may have an interest in causing turmoil in the country.

Iran's leaders are believed to have close links to some Iraqi leaders and clerics.

Sunday's announcement came a day after thousands of Iranians celebrated the 27th anniversary of the U.S. Embassy takeover by militant students in Tehran. The U.S. broke off relations with Iran after the takeover, when 52 Americans were held hostage for 444 days.

http://enews.earthlink.net/article/i...1105-219999317

[L. Cooper]

Americans still remember things like the Boston Tea Party, not to mention celebrating the overthrow of British rule. To this day Americans call it the War of Independance, and the British call it the American Rebellion.

Point of view is important.

[Aim to maim]

What's important to remember is that a large number of Muslims worldwide, irrespective of which sect they belong to, do not like us and wish to do us harm. It's a concept that U.S. leaders of both political parties appear completely unable to grasp.

[Valigator]

In 1773, Britain's East India Company was sitting on large stocks of tea that it could not sell in England. It was on the verge of bankruptcy. In an effort to save it, the government passed the Tea Act of 1773, which gave the company the right to export its merchandise directly to the colonies without paying any of the regular taxes that were imposed on the colonial merchants, who had traditionally served as the middlemen in such transactions. With these privileges, the company could undersell American merchants and monopolize the colonial tea trade. The act proved inflammatory for several reasons. First, it angered influential colonial merchants, who feared being replaced and bankrupted by a powerful monopoly. The East India Company's decision to grant franchises to certain American merchants for the sale of their tea created further resentments among those excluded from this lucrative trade. More important, however, the Tea Act revived American passions about the issue of taxation without representation.

[Valigator]

On November 4, 1979, radical Iranian students seized the United States Embassy complex in the Iranian capital of Tehran. The immediate cause of this takeover was the anger many Iranians felt over the U.S. President Jimmy Carter allowing the deposed former ruler of Iran, Shah Reza Pahlavi, to enter the U.S. for medical treatment. In Iran, this was believed to be an opening move leading up an American-backed return to power by the Shah. The crisis which followed this seizure created a near state of war, ruined Jimmy Carter's presidency, and began an environment of hostility between America and Iran which continues to this day.


Still searchin for that "point of view" thing you memtioned..

Independence, medical treatment, independence, medical treatment...still not gettin it...

[L. Cooper]

It wasn't a fish that discovered water.

Point of view thing.

[BILLY D.]

Originally posted by Valigator
In 1773, Britain's East India Company was sitting on large stocks of tea that it could not sell in England. It was on the verge of bankruptcy. In an effort to save it, the government passed the Tea Act of 1773, which gave the company the right to export its merchandise directly to the colonies without paying any of the regular taxes that were imposed on the colonial merchants, who had traditionally served as the middlemen in such transactions. With these privileges, the company could undersell American merchants and monopolize the colonial tea trade. The act proved inflammatory for several reasons. First, it angered influential colonial merchants, who feared being replaced and bankrupted by a powerful monopoly. The East India Company's decision to grant franchises to certain American merchants for the sale of their tea created further resentments among those excluded from this lucrative trade. More important, however, the Tea Act revived American passions about the issue of taxation without representation.

Dad Gum, that sounds a whole lot like Walmart tactics.

Just had to interject my acidic opinion.

[BILLY D.]

Originally posted by Valigator
On November 4, 1979, radical Iranian students seized the United States Embassy complex in the Iranian capital of Tehran. The immediate cause of this takeover was the anger many Iranians felt over the U.S. President Jimmy Carter allowing the deposed former ruler of Iran, Shah Reza Pahlavi, to enter the U.S. for medical treatment. In Iran, this was believed to be an opening move leading up an American-backed return to power by the Shah. The crisis which followed this seizure created a near state of war, ruined Jimmy Carter's presidency, and began an environment of hostility between America and Iran which continues to this day.


Still searchin for that "point of view" thing you memtioned..

Independence, medical treatment, independence, medical treatment...still not gettin it...

Val

If you would like a refreshing dissertation on what SOME Msulims think of the Muslim religion do a Google search for Wafa Sultan.

I would cut and paste it, but I lack the computer skills to do so.

There is also a movie from ALjazera about it, but as I am aging and only have dial up network I didn't dowload it.

Well thats two women in the world that have bigger ones than I do, you and Wafa.

[Valigator]

Now if we can just keep her alive long enough to make more noise, that would be wonderful....

As a writer-activist who has fought for the rights of Muslim women, I thought I knew my fellow bad girls of Islam. But Wafa Sultan, 47, has given new meaning to the word bad. A psychiatrist in Syria before transplanting to Southern California in 1989 with her family, she gave an interview with al-Jazeera a couple of months ago that made her a household name in the Islamic world. "The clash we are witnessing around the world is ... a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another that belongs to the 21st century," she said. "It is a clash between freedom and oppression."

Thanks Billy, that was a nice compliment....

[BILLY D.]

Originally posted by Valigator
Now if we can just keep her alive long enough to make more noise, that would be wonderful....

As a writer-activist who has fought for the rights of Muslim women, I thought I knew my fellow bad girls of Islam. But Wafa Sultan, 47, has given new meaning to the word bad. A psychiatrist in Syria before transplanting to Southern California in 1989 with her family, she gave an interview with al-Jazeera a couple of months ago that made her a household name in the Islamic world. "The clash we are witnessing around the world is ... a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another that belongs to the 21st century," she said. "It is a clash between freedom and oppression."

Thanks Billy, that was a nice compliment....

My pleasure Madam.

It would not surprise me to find there is a price on her head.