Kevorkian Brothers score on two nice 10 pointers at seasons end!

[WT Kevorkian]

On the second to the last day of our last ditch 2 day gun season which was th 6th and 7th my brother and I shot two ten points within minutes of each other. We were hunting about a half mile from each other, we could still hear each other shoot. About 4:45 p.m. I shot a doe in the neck at about 50 yards and dropped her. About 10 minutes later I heard my brother shoot. Another 5 minutes or so passed before I saw more deer coming down the hill to where I was at, on their tail was a nice ten point. I watched him from about 250 yards out. The does came in and stared at the dead one laying on the ground but did not blow and run back like I have seen them do so many times before. Finally the buck followed right down the fire road and stopped broadside at about 100 yards or so, I started squeezing the trigger and before you know it he was crashing down! I got down and went over to the buck and contemplated calling my brother for help but decided to wait another 15 minutes until dark so I wouldn't disturb his hunt. I decided to just sit down next to my deer, thank the Lord for all my blessings this past season, and wait for dark. I hadn't sat there 2 minutes and my phone rang. It was my brother, he was real excited and told me he had killed a 10 point. I told him I was sitting next to one too, it was unbelievable. Some times things are just meant to be. This will probably never happen again the rest of our lives but I'm sure we will never forget that hunt. I will post pictures as soon as I have time to get some.

[WT Kevorkian]

pics

[gd357]

Nice looking deer! Really neat to take them both at the very end of season too! Good job!

gd

[ghost stalker]

very nice bucks boys

[fabsroman]

Is that a slug barrel that you have on the T/C, or are you guys allowed to use rifles now? I read a letter from DNR that crop damage holders would be able to use their weapon of choice, regardless of which weapon season was in, but I didn't know that we could use rifles even where they are prohibited by local ordinance. If that is the case, I am going to break out the rifle over the next month and shoot some of the big ones down here where we have crop damage permits, if they still have antlers on them. Only problem being that we can only shoot does with those crop damage permits.

Then again, maybe you were using your muzzleloader barrel, but the crown of that barrel looks way too small for a muzzleloader and I can't see the ramrod either.

[WT Kevorkian]

Thats a muzzleloader barrel, Travis used the benelli slug gun. You are not allowed to use rifles in a shotgun county, on crop damage or otherwise. Landowners and W2 employees may use any weapon legal in the county on crop damage,, for example I can use a shotgun or muzzleloader during the bow season, but unless you have a permit for antlered deer you cannot kill anything but does.

A friend was in town from chicago area this week so we got him to take the pictures, we waited an hour for the sun to get right but they turned out pretty good.

[fabsroman]

No doubt, the picture is pretty nice. Did the friend from Chicago also hunt?

The landowner/W2 employee thing throws a wrench into the plans (i.e., shotgun for the entire season) for this year. Maybe I will get the guy to put me on the payroll for a small amount during the hunting season. LOL

[Steverino]

Great pics gentlemen and congratulations!

[WT Kevorkian]

Our friend that was in town doesn't hunt at all, we have tried to get him to go a couple of times when he was working here but he wasn't too interested. He is not against hunting it's just not his cup of tea.

Thank you all for the kind remarks

[WT Kevorkian]

I cant believe somebody took the rack of my brothers deer, he had tied it up to some trees out back to let the bugs work on the skull a little so he could do a european type mount later, and someone came along and took it. Just so happens the fields were sprayed by Southern States during the same week, Gee wonder if they took it???? Of course they deny it but the supervisor confirmed that they pick up every shed and skull they find, as I would too, but not when it is ratchet strapped to a tree with your check in tag attached to it, that is ridiculous.

[gd357]

Sorry to hear that. I usually boil the skull/skull plate myself quickly, and don't leave it unattended outside for that very reason. It's a little work, but it's worth it.

gd

[WT Kevorkian]

Well they (Southern States) came back to spray the fields again last week and my brother went out and looked where his deer head was stolen months ago and to his surprise his horns were laying right there, somebody felt guilty and returned them, my brother was estatic to say the least. Thank god for a conscience

[fabsroman]

Yeah, if only we all had a conscience. Then, when I call a buddy to ask if him if he and his friends are going to hunt a farm/pond the next day after they had been hunting it that day with success, he would have the conscience to tell me that they left a dead goose in the middle of the ice and it probably wouldn't be a good idea for me to come and hunt that pond/field the next day. If only everybody had a conscience, then I wouldn't have had to go into the freezing cold water without waders on to rescue my dog because I sent him in to retrieve that goose that was ruining mine, my dad, and my dog's hunt. Of course, that was only my second goose hunt of that year and it was the last day of the season, both of which I told my "buddy". However, only in an ideal world where everybody had a conscience would I have been told about that. Of course, in an ideal world where everybody would have a conscience, then maybe you wouldn't have gotten on the internet and tried to make fun of me about having to go in and rescue my dog. Again, that would only be in an ideal world.

Kind of like I could have been making fun of some idiot leaving their antlers to hang out on a tree, but I didn't until now. This post just irks me.

Me, I truly believe in Karma, and what goes around comes around. Your brother must have done something good in his life to get the antlers back. Likewise, I met some hunting buddies this past season that are complete gentlemen. They did not mind one bit if my dog jumped out of the blind while geese were working, they were patient about me working with Nitro, and there was absolutely no yelling. It was great. We had three father/son pairs in the blind hunting. We got along so well that they called me several times during the season to hunt. Again, I believe in Karma.

Maybe you guys will learn something from this episode with the antlers. Then again, probably not.

[WT Kevorkian]

For your information I wasn't on any of the hunts you are referring to, and I don't recall making fun of you about the retrieve on the ice. If I said anything at all it was meant in FUN! I really don't know why this post IRKS you as you say,,, tell me more. My brother and I are honest people, not thieves, so what is it we are supposed to learn from this other than not leaving things out that someone may be tempted to steal?? I once had someone cut the head off of a deer that I shot with a bow and did not recover till morning, to this day it was probably one of the biggest deer I ever shot, I never got the head back, I catch poachers around here, allow them to keep the deer, help them clean it, wash it and take it to their vehicle, I help people with all kinds of things out of the goodness of my heart and now you are going to insinuate we have no conscience, give me a break man. That wasn't my goose out on the ice, I wasn't even there, I suggest you take this up with the right person.

By the way I'm glad you found someone to invite you on all their hunts, it saves you the time of finding places, getting permission and patterning birds, thats good. When have you EVER invited any of us to hunt one of YOUR places,, i.e. howard county??? Now count up the times you have hunted with US,,,, take your time.

I have an open invitation to hunt with alot of guys I consider friends, mostly because I help them hang stands, trim trees, and all kinds of things, not because I expect something in return but because I enjoy helping others, thats what friendship is all about. I've patterned birds at places for my friends to hunt on days or times that I couldn't even go, because it's not all about me, I enjoy seeing them have a good time, likewise I have hunted with them on property I have had nothing to do with getting permission, patterning the birds or anything else,, thats called reciprocation.

I am not saying you haven't done favors for people in our group, I know for a fact that you have, and that those things were appreciated, like getting the scope bases for the benellis for my brother and I for example. Mostly what I'm saying is your anger, frustration, etc. that you are expressing towards ME on this post is absolutely ridiculous. I have enjoyed our little heated debates about various topics on here, never have I gotten extremely angry or upset, I enjoy a good debate. The name calling is especially uncalled for, I don't appreciate you calling my brother an idiot, but if it makes you feel better so be it.

[fabsroman]

Yeah, you pretty much were "pulling" my leg about the incident with my dog. Any other time I might find it funny, but when my dog almost dies, it ain't too hilarious. On other occassions on this board you have pissed people off with your "leg pulling" and I warned you about it before. Even calmed some of the guys down in the Mods Forum about the incidents. Never thought it would happen to me. About the only thing that you could have done that would have been worse is if my dad had been in a precarious position and you made fun of that.

To insinuate/pull my leg about there being a $100 reward band on that goose was pretty low, especially when I had the goose in my hand when I was getting my dog. I know there wasn't any bands on that bird, but you and the "guilty" party probably got a good laugh out of that one too. I found no need to bring the goose back out with me since it was the last day of the season and my hunt was already ruined, so I left it. You can bet that it would have come with me if it had a reward band on it.

As far as the Howard County property is concerned, I hadn't hunted that property until this year. I told the "guilty" party that on the phone, but I guess my word isn't worth much. I just never had the time to go up there and see if there was anything around and I barely even had time to hunt. Didn't really have the time this year either, and ended up running into these new friends one morning when my dad and I just decided to go up there and try our luck toward the end of the season. Check my posts and you will see that. I complained plenty about not being able to hunt the past two years. Anyway, there were 4 other guys up there setting up and they were more than happy to hunt with us. They called me a couple of times after that to hunt with them.

Anyway, I am getting side tracked. How does representing the "guilty" party in Court on two separate occassions qualify for favors? How about writing a legal letter on another occassion. How about giving him advice on his pending divorce and the sale of his liquor store and accompanying him on another occassion after a hunt so he could apply for a restraining order for his wife. At $125 an hour I could have paid for plenty of hunts, but I didn't charge him a dime. Oh yeah, I even helped him shingle the roof to his house, and I believe you were there for that one. There were several other calls for advice (e.g., writing off his boat as a business expense), but I didn't keep track of everything. I did that stuff because I thought we were buddies, but I guess we weren't. Before the dog/ice incident, I asked him to provide me with liquor at his cost for my brother's 30th birthday party, which might have cost $200 retail. He gave it to me for free and that was the last time I saw or spoke to him until I spoke to him about hunting that pond. The landowner even IM'ed me and told me we could hunt it at the same time he told the "guilty" party, but I wanted to see what would happen. Never got a call from the "guilty" party about hunting it, and kind of figured I never would. Of course, the landowner told me the "guilty" party was clobbering the geese there, so I decided I might as well hunt the last day, and I left him a voice mail to see if it would be okay. He left me a voice mail stating that he had several people coming and that he would hunt another farm so that we could hunt that pond. I thought he was doing me a favor until I saw the goose at day break. While we are on the favors issue, let's not leave out the SBE offer that I passed on to you, where you got a pretty nice, barely used, SBE for $850 when it was worth just slightly less than $1,200. I could have bought the gun and sold it for a profit, but I didn't.

When I first represented the "guilty" party on the first case, he was going through the divorce with his wife and I ran into her when we got back from Court. She asked me if he had promised me a buck or some other hunt for representation in Court, and I thought she was full of it. However, once all the legal representation and other questions were done and I had asked for the liquor, which you were present for, I never got a single call, invited on a hunt, or anything else.

I have since learned not to mix business with friendship. Life is full of learning experiences. I have also learned that it is better to have friends that laugh with me instead of at me. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Seems like I have a decent amount of shame to deal with.

Both you and the "guilty" party knew that I bought a townhouse and got engaged within 2 months of one another and that I was remodeling the townhouse and planning a wedding in the same year. That should have been a good enough clue that I wasn't hunting much. The only day I went deer hunting was opening day for firearms, barely did any dove hunting, and only went goose hunting twice that year, one being the ice incident. Read through all my posts from back then and you will see. As far as hunting is concerned, I am willing to do whatever work needs to be done, I usually get to the field on time and put in the work, I usually help at the end of the day, and I am always willing to provide my equipment for use. Whether or not I have time to scout birds depends on my schedule. For a little over a year, my schedule was way too busy for me to do a lot of hunting, much less a lot of scouting.

As far as my above post being uncalled for, it is less uncalled for than your making fun of me on this board for the incident with my dog. Other than your most recent post about the choke tube on the SBE, almost all of your posts have either been to show pics of bucks and truck loads of geese, or to whine about your brother's antlers being taken.

I might be the dumb city boy that got duped into hunting a pond with a dead goose belly up on it and then sending my dog to fetch it up, only to end up in the water myself, which is what that thread of yours was about because I know you already knew the story before even asking. Heck, the "guilty" party knew about me shooting a buck in those parts within 15 minutes of me shooting it. I am sure he knew about me plunging into the ice to get my dog since the landowner came out and spoke to my dad about it and the landowner probably saw the "guilty" party later that night when the "guilty" party retrieved the "banded" goose that had both a location band and a $100 reward band. Above you say you are an honest person, but the bird having a band is definitely not true. So, does that not count as a lie because it might have been hearsay from the "guilty" party? Does it not matter because it was merely said in jest? Did you actually see two bands on that bird? Were you at the pond when it was retrieved?

Anyway, when I make fun of the country boy that hangs something valuable on a tree and expects to find it hanging there the next day, I am a mean person and it is uncalled for. Funny how things are when the shoe is on the other foot. Doesn't feel good does it. Would you expect to leave a shotgun outside and then be surprised that it is gone the next morning? Kind of like depending on "buddies" that don't even trust me when I tell them that I haven't been hunting. Then again, my closer friends would have known how busy I was and that I didn't have time to hunt.

I'm not mad about you for the actual incident, I am pissed about your conduct on this board which was done in an attempt to get a good chuckle out of it at my expense. Not once did you or the "guilty" party ask if Nitro and I were okay. Didn't even get a call from the "guilty" party, which reminds me that I fried my $250 cell phone getting my dog. I am sure that you would laugh with me if you broke your bow or something else of value and I was making fun of you, or would you be slightly pissed? Sit back and think about how it feels to be in my place. Then, you might just understand why this thread irks me. Maybe the "thief" just took the antlers to get a laugh out of it. Not too funny was it?