Scare an intruder?

captain2k_ca · #1 03-23-2007, 12:30 AM

So do you guys think this would scare an intruder??

Lots of Blackhawk gear in that pic!
Tacticool remmy 870. Still got lots of gear that I want to add......I love ebay

fabsroman · #2 03-23-2007, 02:16 AM

Do you plan on sleeping in that? LOL How long would it take to get all that gear on? you got enough time before the intruder gets to you?

With all that rib poking, I think you would scare the heck out of almost anybody with that setup. Now, what happens if the intruder isn't scared? Can you maneuver that long barrelled shotgun in close quarters? Even though I tend to use my handgun less than any other gun I own, I would prefer in inside the house for home defense. The shotguns and carbines are fine if you want to sit in the corner of the room and blast the guy if he comes through the door, but if you have to move through the house to protect kids I would have to go with a handgun, especially if you are moving around in the dark and using a hand to feel your way. Even opening doors with a long gun is tough, especially if the intruder happens to be in the room that you are opening the door too because the gun will not be in the up and ready position.

The ultimate goal isn't to scare an intruder, but to kill an intruder. Scaring them is great, but you had better be ready to kill them. My uncle used to keep a BB gun in his house to scare intruders. I kept trying to tell him that he would be in big trouble if the intruder was armed and decided to fight back instead of running. Plus, the BB gun would just raise the level of force to one that my uncle could not contend with if the intruder had a firearm.

Okay, that is me rambling on at a late hour about a simple question that I would answer yes to. The gun and the gear look great.

captain2k_ca · #3 03-23-2007, 11:15 AM

Oh my, I'd be to scared to kill an intruder!! What with Canadian law being what it is I'd spend the rest of my life in jail!!

Ok serious, I'd empty the whole mag on anybody coming into my house to do me or my family harm.....with the exception of the last two shots which(assuming said intruder is down for good)I would put into the ceiling.....hey, it looks good to the courst if you fire 2 warning shots!!!

And seriously I would then be charged with many offenses, starting with illegal discharge of a firearm, likely murder, unsafe storage of a firearm.......BS you say? Oh yes it is. That is why many people are fighting to change Canadian firearms laws.

Oh, and If I killed an intruder with a handgun?? it would be doubly worse, that I used a "taboo" handgun to shoot somebody?? OMG our Lieberals would have a field day with that!! One more reason to take them away from us.......I can see the headlines:

Illegally armed homeowner guns down innocent intruder!!

Remeber that in Canada, our criminals have more rights than our citizens.....it aint right, but its the truth.

SO that being said, for true home protection......if I was allowed I'd have this:

And this:

Beside my bed every night, ready to go.

fabsroman · #4 03-23-2007, 07:55 PM

I forgot that you live in Canada. Best bet might be to arm yourself with pots and pans, and maybe some kitchen knives. Let them try to outlaw kitchen utensils and such after you kill an intruder. That might keep their minds off of guns. They would be worrying about what kitchen utensils and appliances could be used as assault weapons, etc. Honestly, it appears that the tide is changing here in the US and we are saying enough is enough. Several states have passed the castle doctrine wherein if you kill an intruder in your house, you are fine and good. I haven't reviewed my state's recently, but I know we have a castle doctrine. I just don't know if I have to be in fear of my life before I pull the trigger which is the stupidest part of the law I have ever heard. Why would I ever pull the trigger on a gun to kill somebody in my house unless I was in fear of losing my life or the life of a loved one.

TheeBadOne · #5 03-23-2007, 08:35 PM

captain2k_ca · #6 03-23-2007, 09:18 PM

TBO, thatd scare most people off!!!

Fabs, even using a knife or a pan to disarm/wound/maim/kill/whatever an intruder in my home he can still charge me....how sad is that???

Dan Morris · #7 03-23-2007, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by TheeBadOne

I'd go with the dog! It works for me.
Dan

L. Cooper · #8 03-23-2007, 09:57 PM

Let's not get too paranoid.

While it is true that you can be charged with using anything for a weapon if you don't really need it, it is also true that you are perfectly entitled to use force, even lethal force, to protect yourself from harm in Canada.

I think the laws regarding self protection (not the gun laws) are quite reasonable. You must be facing a legitimate threat to persons, not property. You must use only that force necessary to negate the threat. That means, once you no longer fear for your safety, you must stop. But the truth is, there are several cases in Canadian law where people used lethal force and were ruled to have been justified.

I suspect, however, that if 2K met an intruder in that outfit, he would be hard pressed to prove he couldn't possibly have had time to try something else. As much fun as it would be, I think you need to appear just a little less premeditated.

skeet · #9 03-23-2007, 10:36 PM

Never been too scared of dogs. Somebody sicks a dog on me then he will be DRT. That's just me but I do understand that some think a dog is a good deterrent. If I were a crook bent on theft or whatever in a persons home then I would be armed and the dog would be toast if at all possible.. I may leave after though. Luckily I am not a crook looking for anything in anyone else's home.

You know, I'm not too happy that the police use them for attack dogs either. Saw a poor guy that got chewed up by a K-9 that got loose when he shouldn't have. I have absolutely no problem with them using dogs for drug interdiction and (legal) searches.

LC, I'm not too happy with the way things are going anywhere in the US and Canada now days. The milk sop doo-gooders that seem to pervade our society always want to find a way to "help" the criminal. Guess they feel sorry for them or something. They never seem to feel any sympathies for the victim. They just try to make the crook out to be the "victim".

Oh and C2K...If you had to use anything for home protection the H&K really isn't the right tool. That there shotgun is much better. And they have to over tech all this stuff now days. All the extras on the H&K are really unnecessary for the most part. The H&K IS a neat gun to shoot though. Pretty reliable.

captain2k_ca · #10 03-23-2007, 11:57 PM

Any die hard Canadian Liberal would pee his pants if he saw and HK up close

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I suspect, however, that if 2K met an intruder in that outfit, he would be hard pressed to prove he couldn't possibly have had time to try something else. As much fun as it would be, I think you need to appear just a little less premeditated.

"Really your Honor....I always dress like this at home!!!"

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I think the laws regarding self protection (not the gun laws) are quite reasonable. You must be facing a legitimate threat to persons, not property. You must use only that force necessary to negate the threat. That means, once you no longer fear for your safety, you must stop. But the truth is, there are several cases in Canadian law where people used lethal force and were ruled to have been justified.

And there have also been cases that went the other way around.......and if firearms get involved(Even in self defense)the ball changes again.......

TheeBadOne · #11 03-24-2007, 12:16 AM

fabsroman · #12 03-24-2007, 12:27 AM

Skeet,

Regarding the entire dog issue, I think it is a good one. If the perp is armed and he kills my dog before he gets to me, you can bet I will have a good defense for self defense and fearing for my life. He just used deadly force on my dog, so what would make me think he wouldn't use deadly force on me or my family? After I heard the first gun shot ring out, you can bet that the perp wouldn't be confronting me without me getting some rounds off and at that point I wouldn't even be thinking about how everything would look in Court.

Now, if the perp is armed and he kills my dog and decides to leave, that is still fine with me. I'll be pissed that my dog is dead, but no harm will come to my family.

If the thief is unarmed, I would assume that he would flee from a dog, but who knows. A lot of thieves aren't the brightest.

TheeBadOne · #13 03-24-2007, 12:30 AM

muledeer · #14 03-24-2007, 04:48 PM

I blew up your picture and posted it on my front door. I now feel safe

I can just see you. "Get down, assume the prone position, you're ManBeef".

muledeer

Dan Morris · #15 03-24-2007, 05:54 PM

Actually, besides two sets of long teeth, in the garage...on a fridge, I have taped several silhouette targets with the heartbeat chewed out by 45 holes and a 357 up in a closet. Also, living in a blue ghetto......help is but a yell away!( Lots of city/county/federal
officers)God forbid I ever have to trigger one....but I'm not overly concerned....going to work is my greatest fear....for that, I keep doors locked n a CCW....
Dan