.338 R.U.M. fans - Page 2

HPBTMTCH · #16 10-28-2005, 12:45 AM

Shot 3 deer with the 200 grain ballistic tips, i would have thought that with that much speed, it would have punched a hole big enough to drop a softball in, but it just made thumb size exit holes in the off shoulders. The nosler is not as explosive as i had hoped. One even managed to run a few steps, lol.

RUMLUVER · #17 10-28-2005, 09:23 AM

HPBTMTCH

It's been just the opposite for me with my experience with the Ballistic Tips first time I had just started hunting with my father he was shooting a 25-05 bullet hit the doe broadside at about 120yrds and when it exited the of side was a mess I could stick my head in the hole lots of blood shot meat all over. Secondly was hunting with my brother using his .270 he shot buck broadside at 75yrds the buck keprt running as if nothing happened then the next shot hit him in the neck then he stopped and fell over. The first bullet enter the ribcage and exploded the jacket metal didn't make it the far side of the ribcage. The lugs collapsed and nothing but pink faom inside. The shot to the neck didn't make it through the neck it also exploded didn't break the neck and blood shot most of the meat in the neck. That's 2 of my experiences with Ballistic Tips while hunting. As far as the Partitions I've seen pinhole exits, explosions and a tumbling bullet exit. My cousin almost lost his muledeer 3 years ago he was using a .270 also shot it three times with 130 Partitions and not a single one expanded the deer ran about 1/2 mile before expiring. Just some stories to share

ol_spark · #18 10-28-2005, 03:36 PM

RUMLUVER...
I did shoot a few of the 225 SST's. Not enough to really get a good group though. As I said now that the 250 Match Kings are working out, I'll just stay with them awhile. It's almost time to quit playing and get some serious shooting done here in Pa.

RUMLUVER · #19 10-28-2005, 04:10 PM

ol-spark

Go get some shooting done and I couldn't agree with you more when you find what works and it does what you want and need then it's time to stop looking. That is untill you need something else then its time to start the fun of research and development all over again but that's a big portion of the fun in reloading at least for me! Good Luck and Hopefully even better groups!

royinidaho · #20 10-30-2005, 08:51 PM

The 338 cal must separate the men from the boys as there are nothing but men talking here. Then here I come

Sorry I'm not up to par yet I'm just shooting a 338 winny. Have settled on the 250gr range of bullets as I figure if I want to shoot a 225 I'd move back to a 30 cal.

Have had best groups w/Sierra 2600s and Wildcat 252s. Both running right at 2800 fps. They will go 2850 but groups shrink to 5s right at 2800.

My goal is a 250 @ 3125. Hence I perked up at Ol' Sparks 338 Tommy. I've been looking hard at the Edge but my 1K 224cal project slowed me down a bit.

I'm looking for a 338 Rum takeoff bbl if anyone knows of one.

It seems that all of the 338 people who actually shoot elk are going with the 225 bullets and have great results.

Me, I just hunt 'em, never see 'em so what bullet I shoot makes little difference.

Spark, why the extra 2" on that bbl? What action is it on?

RUMLUVER · #21 10-30-2005, 10:33 PM

royinidaho

Glad to see you joined the conversation! I started with the first box of bullets I could find to reload for my new purchase with was my first .338. It happened to be a .338 RUM and the box of bullets was a box of 210gr Swift Sciroccos it was the only box in town at the time that weighed over 185grs with I thought was pretty sad. But I was in a hurry because I had a late season deer tag that was beggin to be filled and I only had 2 weeks to work up a load for my rifle and fill that tag! So I settled on 97.5grs. of RL25 and never looked back it shoots under 1/2 an inch and hits like the hammer of Thor actually 4925ftlbs at the muzzel. Then I feel head over heels nuts for my .338 RUM. I played with it all year thisyear and my favorite 2 loads are a 250 Hornady Intlk at3000fps loaded with 90.0grs of IMR 7828 and a 225 Hornady Intlk at 3150 with 92.0grs of IMR7828. Both very accurate loads. Now that I've tried this .338 RUM in a Model 700 LSS I find to be my go to rifle. When asked what will I shoot with my .338RUM by folks here at home being that the popular opinion around here is that a .338 RUM is an artilliery piece I always tell them praire dogs if feel like and that usally keeps other questions about my .338 at bay. I bought and been shooting my .338 RUM since December 0f 04 so I'm still just havin all kinds of fun with it!

royinidaho · #22 10-30-2005, 11:34 PM

RUMLUVER

There isn't much experience in existence for the 338 cal.

I appreciate you data. The 250 @ 3000fps would extend my effective range out to 900 yds from the current 830. That would be a full 200 fps over what I'm shooting now.

If I could ever get into comeups/downs I could reach 1K but the the way I hunt is a bit of walk and stalk with very few opportunities to setup on a spot and stay there for a long period of time. Thus I stick with the mil dot and max effective range is limited by the 5th mil which is the top of the post.

I"m shooting the 338 win w/24" bbl with a Holland QD brake with the rifle loaded up to 10.8 lbs including scope, sling and bipod. Kicks about like a hefty 308 load but a bit more that 270 w/140s @ 3200. Kind of a gentle giant.

Its a hoot bustin rocks, so far out to 540 yds or so.

I'd run a RUM reamer in it but 24" is just too short to meet the needs of the RUM. Thus I'm looking for a factory takeoff barrel. I may run the throat out a bit tho' and see what that gets me.

Snooped around - Sparks' lilja bbl is on a rem 700, btw.

RUMLUVER · #23 10-31-2005, 08:49 AM

Isnn't a muzzel brake kind of loud! I know it was when I was shooting my friends .338 WIN MAG with a brake. His a model 700 classic witha 24in barrel. It wasn't fun at all at the range when we were doing load development. It was loud and blew gas back at me. So I just learned to shoot mine without one. But I may be intrested if I could find one without the extra noise and gas blowing back at me.

royinidaho · #24 10-31-2005, 04:01 PM

The Holland doesn't blow back on you. equal large amounts perpendular to the muzzle, a little up to counteract muzzle jump and just a little out the front. None out the bottom.

Tested in very find blow sand and was quite pleased.

Never shot w/o electronic ear protection so don't know how much louder it is. However, it is louder.

I wouldn't leave home without it.

ol_spark · #25 10-31-2005, 04:50 PM

Roy...
I was up to the Ridgway Rifle Club on Saturday morn to shoot my steel plate at 1000yds with the 338 T. It shot flatter at that distance by 14 clicks than my chart said. Anyhow after the first shot went directly over, no wind at 8:00 am. I asjusted and was on the [plate with the 2nd round. Then I confirmed my 840 yd clicks on a bowling ball that was hanging on a rope. Did you ever shoot one of those things. Pretty neat to watch them swing when you hit them. First shot was high there also. Anyhow so I adjusted my chart for those to yardages and shot a few more rounds to confirm the clicks by going up to the steel then back to the plate. Worked OK until I knocked my plate over. Previously, one of the chains broke off and I coulcn't suspend it so I just propped it up against a couple of 2x4's. About that time some guys came with lever guns to practice for a shoot at 10:00 and I never did get to go retrieve my plate to see what kind of damage it did. Maybe someday I'll get up ther to get it and take some pics to post.
Why are you selling your 338? Dumb question

I know since it doesn't make any difference what you carry cause you don't see elk you might as well carry the lighter 270. How's that, answered my own question.

RUMLUVER · #26 10-31-2005, 05:15 PM

ol-spark

It would be nice to see what .338 of yours is doing at that range! Hope you get some pics of that plate!

"yote" · #27 10-31-2005, 09:10 PM

I tend to stay away from the word "Magnum" in rifles. My 308's
and 338/06 Ackley Improved will do anything I ask of them and
they let me keep my dental work intact!!!!

RUMLUVER · #28 10-31-2005, 10:06 PM

yote

Now you sound like my dad giving me a hard time about shooting a cannon! I will admitt shooting my .338 RUM without a brake the recoil is stout but after some practice its managable. Not at all as bad as some think it is. But it more than your average shooter will learn to handle.

Evan03 · #29 10-31-2005, 11:43 PM

givn enough ,otovation i can learn to handle about anything. ive got no motivation to handle rifles chamberd bigger than the smaller 300s

thats just me.

i to also like load development, but i like even more when ive found that load and im confident i can punch out 100rds of it produceing acurate hunting or varmiting ammo.

RUMLUVER · #30 11-01-2005, 08:59 AM

How true Evan 03 how true

There's always a feeling of a job well done as a man settles in for a nice long reloading session knowing the end result is a culmination of research, loading and testing at the range. As far as ones recoil theshold I believe that it can be pushed a little farther along if desired. But one must stack the deck in thier favor also. The rifle must fit like it was made for them and reloading is a must also. That way a person can start with reduced loads and work thier up to low end loads and then move up from there until they reach desired rusults. After plenty of practice a person won't realy notice the recoil anylonger and be just enjoying a good day with a good rifle and load in the field! At least I think so but I may wrong.