How Screwed Up Is The Media? - Page 2

Nulle · #16 01-07-2006, 05:35 PM

I will hold judgement until the whole story unfolds if it does.
I find it pretty hard to believe the news media is that cold as to do what they did "unless" they had some reliable information that was not true.
Even they must know the back-lash of an articel stating the men were ok could mean to them.
There is more to this then we know at this time I would bet.

Rocky Raab · #17 01-07-2006, 06:05 PM

Nulle, it's clear you haven't dealt with many reporters. They're not only cold, they are completely without care or concern whatsoever.

As JD Salinger put it, they're "as sensitive as a toilet seat."

PJ, you could have had all the tape in the world of that interview. If he had done his usual trick, what would you have done with the tape? Taken it to the media? Ha! When they control what gets printed, they will never be guilty of anything. Oh, and that's why companies need a PR professional to deal with the media as the SOLE spokesman for that company. Real PR isn't to make a tainted company look good - it's to keep a company from getting unfairly tainted.

Fabs, I have great respect for some lawyers. I have zero respect for any reporter, period.

denton · #18 01-07-2006, 06:28 PM

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I have zero respect for any reporter, period.

I see you are one of their bigger fans.

WyoShooter · #19 01-07-2006, 09:14 PM

I feel that the liberal left wingers will somehow blame President Bush for this disaster and the false report to the media.
Don't mean to make light of this but you just watch.

Lilred · #20 01-07-2006, 09:39 PM

Ya know..that whole thing is a dam shame...and it's mighty pitiful.
It's 1 thing to report somethin to the general public...but fer them er whoever to let the poor families think that they were alive and even gave them enough time to celebrate to boot..aint right.

I can only imagine what those folks are goin through..I hope the Lord looks after em and comforts em.

Nulle · #21 01-08-2006, 04:26 AM

Rocky = With alldo respect I may have delt with more reporters then you have on a up close and personal basis.
I realize they get some trash in there and have had statements we have given them taken and printed out of context also.
They can be like a pack of wolfs and it takes one to get it started but I still think in this case misinformation was leaked out but I may be wrong.

Hawkeye6 · #22 01-08-2006, 05:05 AM

"...I may have delt with more reporters then you have on a up close and personal basis. ..."

Hey, Nulle, IIRC dealing with reporters on an up-close and personal basis is one of the things that Rocky used to do to put food on the table. If that is correct, I'll be he dealt more with guys like Gerald Revovler and other nationally pseudo-recognized dimwits than you have. I would think you've probably dealt more with the state and local reporters. The ones who have to live with the prople they reoprt on. Two different breeds, there. The first I beleive are professional liars and rumour-mongers. The latter are forced to be a bit more honest.

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Nulle · #23 01-08-2006, 07:06 AM

Well there may be some facts along that line as the local yokels are better to channel into your way of thinking then the Nationals.
We do host the Largest motorcyle rally in the world and deal with the big boys on a everyday deal for about a week and a half every year. So to hint that I am stupid in the media respect is stupid in its own right and also I would never lump ALL them together by saying non of them are anygood and if this is the case why read or watch any news stuff at all as with this concept it would be perceived as lies anyway.
I sure don't think for a minute that what they did was right but not sure why they would do it knowing darn well it could and did blow up in their face.
Its not like they needed to get viewers as they were already there - was it just to be nasty and crule to the viewers and family? I don't know and really don't understand this one at all.

Valigator · #24 01-08-2006, 09:57 AM

I think there will be a attemped lawsuit somewhere in the woodpile, thats why I dont think your hearing too much about it from the parties involved...

rubicon · #25 01-08-2006, 10:31 AM

Without boubt there will be law suits before it is all over. For now familys are grieving and burying their loved ones. With Wv state troupers stationed at the local churches and funeral homes to keep the reporters away. There is some interisting info on the MSHA website concerning the mine violations.

LoneWolf · #26 01-08-2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by WyoShooter
I feel that the liberal left wingers will somehow blame President Bush for this disaster and the false report to the media.
Don't mean to make light of this but you just watch.

Already heard on ABC radio Thursday morning, on how this directly related to Bush's friendly stance with mining companies, and lessening the laws on company safety.

What a crock

Rocky Raab · #27 01-08-2006, 11:17 AM

Not knocking your work, Nulle. Anyone who works with reporters on a regular basis is as good as a combat vet. Salute.

I'm not bragging either, but just sharing war stories. But I've done more than 3,000 interviews. I did a full hour on CNN, was interviewed by all the biggies at one point or another: Dan Rather, Wolf Blitzer, even Walter Cronkite. Including Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes.

I've been interviewed by everybody from part-time freelance wannabes to the above names. I mean everybody in between. Live radio, live TV, newspaper, wire services, all of it. About half of it extremely hostile and accusative (I was one of two media spokesmen for the Challenger Space Shuttle accident.)

In all that time, I knew maybe three reporters who I'd call decent. One of them I'd even like to have as a friend - he's Jay Barbree, NBC at Cape Canaveral.

The rest? I think less of them than the stuff I'd scrape off my shoes after a walk through the kennel.

skeeter@ccia.com · #28 01-08-2006, 11:09 PM

I listen to the media making mistakes just about every night.news papers..radio..or tv...they say live reporting from (then they name my home town) but give the wrong county..or the other way around..names etc most of the time incorrect..and these are just the ones I know is wrong...this leads me to KNOW not to believe their stories 100%...they might give ya food for thought then can research it yourself...listen to a few stations and make up your own story..
I think since most of the media...cnn/etc etc....reported the wrong info just to be the first out with it....we will hear most of it slip under the rug....now if it was something not dealing with their mess up, it would be reported over and over and over and during their 15 min program that they have to drag out for an hr or more, they keep saying watch later...to find out....this I wish they would realize how much they hurt the program by doing so...like the weather...ya get up...tv to see weather...all ya hear is ....is it going to storm?..stay tuned and find out...well..da....I want to hear it now...even if it is over and over...but the correct info at that...they should be told to go back to the 15 min news and do it right....forget about being first...it is always first on the channel I am watching anyhow...They remind me of the old test that they told one person one thing and they kept whispering the story to several others down the line..by the time it got to the other end...was a diffenent thing altogether....lol

fabsroman · #29 01-08-2006, 11:38 PM

I was in Long Island over the weekend and I brought up this media disaster to one of my wife's uncles, who happens to be a liberal. He comes back with, "You know Bush it to blame for it." My response, "How is Bush to blame for the erroneous reporting of the media?" His response, "Oh, you were talking about the media?"

It truly kills me. We talked about Bush's involvement some more and I asked him if he really thought Bush had first hand knowledge of all these violations that were "overlooked" or if Bush had merely appoointed the person in charge of the agency to oversee mining, or if it just happened to fall back on Bush because it happened to be an executive agency function and Bush is the President. He responded that he didn't know. It amazes me at how easily people can be brain washed. They don't even try to figure out what the truth is, but believe what they hear because it suits them.

Just like a lot of forwarded e-mail that I receive. I love the one about Target being a French company, when it is based out of Minneapolis, Minnesota and it started out as part of the Dayton-Hudson Company which has been around in America since about 1918. I could go on and on about this and provide a list, but it is late and I need to go through a bunch of other posts before I get to sleep.

Nulle · #30 01-09-2006, 06:54 AM

Rocky: I have delt with a couple of the ones you mentioned on a short term one incident deal and I hope this is not taken out of context as I am not defending them just trying to understand "why" it was done.
Are they just that uncaring and nobody to hold them accountable.
I have gone through extensive media training and one thing is you don't get in a pissing match with them because you will lose.
In the last year they are really on a frenzy it seems like and we got blasted big time when I was with FEMA and now they are after the Red Cross also.
In the mine case was there not a media person in charge of the press release stuff? You have to give them something to report or they will make it up. I still think somebody gave them that false information but as time goes on I can see we will never know.