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Old 02-08-2008, 02:07 PM
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Old 02-08-2008, 06:17 PM
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Paul,

I read your e-mail and must say that I am utterly surprised that more and more people don't object to providing the sample. As far as I am concerned, that would have to be an unreasonable search. Then again, maybe this is a good way to keep people from doing drugs. However, where do the searches stop?

To everybody that reads this, do not ever volunteer to give a urine sample, or to allow an officer to search anything you own. Once you give permission or volunteer the sample, you are SOL for any type of appeal or contest as to the validity of the search and the evidence obtained.

Then again, I followed my own advice at BWI airport when I was going to pick up my now wife, my then girlfriend, and I was randomly stopped by the Transportation Authority. They wanted to search my vehicle and I said no. They didn't like that and said that if I didn't allow them to search I couldn't enter airport grounds with my vehicle. I told the officer that I wanted to record the conversation and he told me NO. I then told the officer that I was going to dictate his name and badge number into my recorder and that he could either be quiet while I did so, or he could consent to the recording of the conversation while I was recording his name and badge number. Of course, he then went and got his supervisor who asked for my driver's license. They ran it and I allowed them to search my car because I didn't want to leave my girlfriend sitting at the airport waiting for me. The supervisor came back and gave me my license back and told me to have a good night. I was so pissed I sent an e-mail to the TSA, and then did my own research on the Patriot Act which allowed them to search my vehicle. It took several hours for me, an attorney, to figure out that the law was on their side. Can you imagine how long it would take somebody not trained in the law to figure that out? By the way, is it obvious that I am still pissed off about that incident almost 5 years later.
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