New Shotguns Aquired This Year - Page 2

dovehunter · #16 09-13-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutchman01

so, the brownings jam?

The two A-5s that I had - a 12 ga. Magnum and a 20 ga. Lightweight - were both chronic jammers. I had both of the them to different gunsmiths on several occasions, all to no avail. They were both beautiful guns but, at the end of the day, pretty is as pretty does. My Remington 1100, to the best of my recollection, has yet to jam.

skeet · #17 09-13-2009, 09:02 PM

You just reminded me that yep I have one of these too. It's in the box in a Cedar Chest in my wifes sewing room. Bought it quite a few years ago for my father in law. He couldn't shoot the 12 ga cause of all the coumadin(blood thinner) he was taking. Bruised him up pretty bad. Took him duck and goose hunting few times and it killed ducks and geese with bismuth pretty well. Going to go to my grandson later this year. Not a great fan of Brownings but that gun always worked.. As far as Browning Auto 5s..If they are a chronic jammer it is usually a pretty easy fix. Sometimes though it IS the shooter. Sometimes if shooting reloads it could be the ammo. And as an owner of 1100/11-87s of more years than I like to admit, if your 1100 hasn't jammed on you yet..You've been missing something in life. Keep shooting it especially in cooolllldddd weather. It will hang up. Love those guns. And I do know how to make 'em fly. Have 2 sets of D grade guns(12 20 28 410) and 8 or 10 others. Broken many a hundred straight at skeet...and a few 100s in Trap. Just bought a 20 ga 1100 G3 when Cabela's opened in Billings. Darn things got really expensive(1300 bucks) over the years. But I got it new for under 500 bucks. Going to shoot it at pheasants and maybe quackers this year. Darn thing came with a really nice hard luggage type case. You wouldn't think there is a gun in it till you open it.

popplecop · #18 09-14-2009, 08:26 PM

Dutchman01, Beautiful drilling, what gauge and caliber?

Dutchman01 · #19 09-14-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by popplecop

Dutchman01, Beautiful drilling, what gauge and caliber?

Thanks, 12 ga and 30-06.

dovehunter · #20 09-15-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by skeet

You just reminded me that yep I have one of these too. It's in the box in a Cedar Chest in my wifes sewing room. Bought it quite a few years ago for my father in law. He couldn't shoot the 12 ga cause of all the coumadin(blood thinner) he was taking. Bruised him up pretty bad. Took him duck and goose hunting few times and it killed ducks and geese with bismuth pretty well. Going to go to my grandson later this year. Not a great fan of Brownings but that gun always worked.. As far as Browning Auto 5s..If they are a chronic jammer it is usually a pretty easy fix. Sometimes though it IS the shooter. Sometimes if shooting reloads it could be the ammo. And as an owner of 1100/11-87s of more years than I like to admit, if your 1100 hasn't jammed on you yet..You've been missing something in life. Keep shooting it especially in cooolllldddd weather. It will hang up. Love those guns. And I do know how to make 'em fly. Have 2 sets of D grade guns(12 20 28 410) and 8 or 10 others. Broken many a hundred straight at skeet...and a few 100s in Trap. Just bought a 20 ga 1100 G3 when Cabela's opened in Billings. Darn things got really expensive(1300 bucks) over the years. But I got it new for under 500 bucks. Going to shoot it at pheasants and maybe quackers this year. Darn thing came with a really nice hard luggage type case. You wouldn't think there is a gun in it till you open it.

Regarding the A-5s it wasn't the shooter as I did not reload at that time and shot only factory shells. With all due respect I took both those guns to gunsmiths that probably know more about it than you and none of them could correct the problem.

Regarding my 1100 I have shot hundreds of cheap dove loads and reloads throuh mine using one of the 2-3/4" barrels and I still don't recall it ever jamming. I do not watefowl hunt so I will have to admit that it has not been subjected to to salt spray, etc. but then I didn't do it with the Brownings either.

skeet · #21 09-15-2009, 04:57 PM

[QUOTE=dovehunter;332126]Regarding the A-5s it wasn't the shooter as I did not reload at that time and shot only factory shells. With all due respect I took both those guns to gunsmiths that probably know more about it than you and none of them could correct the problem.

With all due respect.to you..But sometimes you open mouth and insert foot. Fixing guns was one of the ways I made my living. And Auto 5's were one of the guns I had to deal with most of the time. I lived in a waterfowl hunting area(Maryland goose hunting)..Some salt spray etc..but that isn't what made them or 1100s foul up. I could and did make A-5s and Rem 11's work. Had to. I made money with mine. I shot more than a 1/4 million shells through a few. That is more dealing with A5s than the average gunsmith. I also cleaned guns and I always charged more for A5s than others. Compared to say an 1100 it was a real PITA to strip down all the way, clean and reassemble. The easiest was the ol 870 pumps..

1100s are very forgiving about how a shooter holds 'em. A-5s are not. A5s are very forgiving with the ammo used as long as the recoil rings are correct. You can't limp wrist 'em like some do semi auto handguns. I shot with an old All American team skeet shooter who used 1100's. He never put the gun to his shoulder and was a spot shooter. Was shooting with him on his 81st birthday when he ran another 100. He at one time used 11-48s and told me he couldn't shoot like that with them.. course they were nothing but a modernized A5 for all intents and purposes.

popplecop · #22 09-15-2009, 08:33 PM

Skeeter, I agree A5s and Rem 11s are a bear to take down and clean, most users have never torn one down for a thurogh cleaning. Rem. 1100s and 11-87s are a snap to do.

skeet · #23 09-16-2009, 12:19 AM

I have to agree with ya about that drilling. It's sure a purty one. I had 2 or 3 over the years. Also had a vierling. However it's spelled. But it was a 16x16x 30-30 x 22 Hornet if I don't disremember. Just too much stuff to remember to shoot 'em far as I'm concerned. Only had one drilling that was a 12 ga but had a wild 8 x 51 with a 318 bore. Couldn't find bullets for it. Had to make my own

One of the hardest guns to take down to clean was one of the first gas guns made..High Standard made a gas operated auto loader that was a bear to clean. Mainly cause it was so hard to figure out how to start. The bbl was not removeable. I still have one here. Guy gave it to me cause he couldn't keep it running and owed me money...so I acquired it I guess.. It actually works just fine...sometimes. But it's a 3 inch gun and I hardly ever use it. Last I shot it was at a couple of geese 2 yrs ago. Kilt 'em but they were kinda right in the decoys. Geese round where I live ain't shot at too much. Never fly out of shotgun range generally. They really ain't as edjumacated as the geese back there in Md

Thinkin about that 4 bbl gun..The last wasn't a Hornet. It was a 22 WCF. Like a Hornet but not as fast.

Dutchman01 · #24 09-17-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skeet

I have to agree with ya about that drilling. It's sure a purty one. I had 2 or 3 over the years. Also had a vierling. However it's spelled. But it was a 16x16x 30-30 x 22 Hornet if I don't disremember. Just too much stuff to remember to shoot 'em far as I'm concerned. Only had one drilling that was a 12 ga but had a wild 8 x 51 with a 318 bore. Couldn't find bullets for it. Had to make my own

One of the hardest guns to take down to clean was one of the first gas guns made..High Standard made a gas operated auto loader that was a bear to clean. Mainly cause it was so hard to figure out how to start. The bbl was not removeable. I still have one here. Guy gave it to me cause he couldn't keep it running and owed me money...so I acquired it I guess.. It actually works just fine...sometimes. But it's a 3 inch gun and I hardly ever use it. Last I shot it was at a couple of geese 2 yrs ago. Kilt 'em but they were kinda right in the decoys. Geese round where I live ain't shot at too much. Never fly out of shotgun range generally. They really ain't as edjumacated as the geese back there in Md

Thinkin about that 4 bbl gun..The last wasn't a Hornet. It was a 22 WCF. Like a Hornet but not as fast.

I had only seen one drilling in my life before I bought mine. I was 10 years old and thought that was the cat's meow. When my fellow citizens elected Obama I saw what was happening with ars and aks. I thought that, maybe, the price on other guns might just drop some. I had been watching the drillings online and waiting for something I could afford and for ga and calibers I liked. Sure enough I found what I was looking for and didn't pay too much for it. I'm guessing this was somebody's 23 year old safe queen because it certainly hasn't been used.

I still had to sell all my guns but my browning hipower tho. I don't think I'll miss em too much except maybe my winchester carbine but I really like this drilling. A german on another forum told me the saur and sohn drilling was; solid, dependable, sensible, and completely boring. I agree with most of what he said. If I had my hands on a vierling I don't know I'd ever sell it.

M.T. Pockets · #25 10-15-2009, 09:21 PM

Well I ended up getting that Browning Gold 3" 20 guage for my wife. A little anniversary present.

When my buddy brought it out he also brought out a Beretta Extrema II in 3.5 in 12 guage, camo synthetic. He bought a few of them for $1,000 each told me I could have one for cost. I didn't need one, but my 15 year old son was getting tired of using my hand me down old BPS so he cashed in some lawn mowing money he'd saved up and bought one. He loves it.

gold40 · #26 08-27-2010, 04:51 PM

I bought a lovely little Smith & Wesson Elite SxS 20 gauge last month. Sweet little gun, and mine has a straight (english) stock, 28 barrels, choke tubes, and double triggers. CDNN had a big sale on them at HALF of the list price.

GOLD40

popplecop · #27 08-28-2010, 11:38 AM

gold40, sounds like a great deal, let us know how it shoots.

gold40 · #28 08-28-2010, 02:38 PM

The S&W Elite is very well made, and both the wood and metal are finished to an extent you would expect on a much more expensive firearm. I'm very pleased with it. Besides being lovely, it balance well.

It shoots fine -- better than my meager skills warrant.

Over many years I have learned -- at some expense -- that I shoot best with heavier shotguns, preferably with 30" or 32" barrels. On Sporting Cays, I score highest when shooting my 32" Citori. The extra weight and longer barrels help to keep me from stopping my swing too soon.

But the lighter weight SxS's are more fun to hunt with, and remain my favorites for upland game. This fall, the S&W will be used on quail and pheasant. I'm sure it will do the job.