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06-14-2006, 06:51 PM
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  About the Marines: They didn't have a court-martial yet, and I believe they have not yet been charged with specific offenses. But that may have changed and I missed it. So my point is we shouldn't be calling "My Lai" and following the lead of the liberal media just yet. Japan: Bomb #1 dropped on 6/6/45 in the early morning. Bomb #2 dropped on 6/9/45 in the late morning. 3 days were given.
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06-14-2006, 07:32 PM
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I think the records show that the Japanese high command refused to believe the Hiroshima damage was caused by a single bomb. They were determined to fight on - until the Nagasaki bmob.
But we're getting VERY far afield from the original post, so... NEWS FLASH!! Zarkawi is still dead. Good guys are still alive. That's enough for me.
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06-14-2006, 10:23 PM
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Rocky, I have not read that anywhere, but wouldn't be surprised by it if it were actually the case. The Japanese were fierce fighters that did not believe in surrender even if it was one man against one thousand. If that is the case, then I am glad we dropped the second bomb. I'll have to do some more reading up on WWII in my spare time.
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06-14-2006, 10:48 PM
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Fabs, the Hiroshima bomb fell right on target and vaporized every military target in the city. The only witnesses reporting what happened to Japanese authorities were civilians. They insisted there was only one explosion, but they were simply not believed.
The Nagasaki bomb was dropped in desperation after the crew circled for a long time, trying to get a visual ID of the exact target (which was absolutely required by our high command). They were out of fuel and could not make it back to base with the bomb still aboard. They dropped it through a hole in the clouds, but missed the target by a good amount. The military complex that was to be ground zero was behind a small ridge - and thus protected from the worst of the blast. The unlooked-for benefit was that there were trained and believable military witnesses - and they confirmed it was one bomb, one blast. That did it. The Emperor overruled the generals and ordered a surrender.
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06-15-2006, 11:39 AM
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Bulletpusher, here is a direct result of us bumping off al-Zarqawi:
Looks like some good intel was obtained. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...06-15-08-25-20 Quote:
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06-15-2006, 01:42 PM
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Skinny,
I've been listening to all of the reports all day. The takedowns are having quite an effect on the insurgent/terrorist activates beening reported today. All of the actions that your post reports have taken place in the past 24 hours or so and because of these actions the insurgents/terrorists have just about stoped all actions and attacks. I am hoping that we've broken the back of at least some segment of the problems there and at least slowed the attacks down some. God bless our Troups, and God bless the United States of America.
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06-16-2006, 10:37 AM
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So Rocky, were you a 462 or a 461?
IYAAYAS! (I was AMMO baby,,,,,)
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06-16-2006, 11:45 AM
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I don't even remember the difference.
There were actually three kinds of USAF O-2 pilots. A small number of poor boogers flew the O-2B model, derisively known as the Bullsh*t Bomber. It was a Psy Ops plane with a huge set of loudspeakers and a leaflet drop chute. The pilots were not Forward Air Controllers at all. Of those flying the O-2A (with more radios plus rockets and other gear) were all Forward Air Controllers, but they were divided into "A" and "B" levels. "A" FACs were (ideally) all former fighter pilots with a (supposedly) better knowledge of aerial weapons, and their proper use - including their UNsafe use. To work with US troops in close enemy contact, you had to be an "A" FAC. "B" FACs were fully qualified air strike commanders, but could only work targets that didn't involve ground troops. I was an "A" Fac by virtue of having gone through "Instant Fighter Pilot School" where we flew obsolete fighters, dropped practice bombs, strafed and generally had a hoot of a time in the sunny skies of New Mexico. However, in the real world of combat, not one "B" Fac was ever prevented from helping some poor squad of grunts who got themselves into a fire fight and needed help soonest. Ironically, I found myself in a job for most of my tour that didn't involve running any kind of airstrikes at all! But that's the subject of my next book...
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