Jim Zumbo's anti-gun blog

[Skinny Shooter]

I found these on another site:

[Dan Morris]

I noticed a few minutes ago, Cabelas/Gerber Knives and NRA have also dumped him. Now, if people would do the same for the Kenedy family................................
Dan

[Aim to maim]

Below I've posted Mr. Zumbo's latest apology/whine I found on another forum, supposedly originally posted on Mr. Nugent's website. I'm just passing it on here and cannot vouch for its authenticity.

I find it rather lame, but that's just my opinion. Note he says he is "pro-hunting" but makes no mention of being "pro right to keep and bear arms." The right to hunt, which is the only thing that seems to matter to him, is indeed precious, as I think all of us would agree. However, the right to own firearms for potential self-defense is far, far more important in the big picture. It appears that he still just doen't get it.

ZUMBO POST

"The last few days have been an educational experience, to say the least. My ill-conceived inflammatory blog, as all of you now know, set off a firestorm that, I’m told, has never before been equaled. I’m not proud of that.
Let me say this at the outset. My words here are from the heart, and all mine. No one can censor me, and I answer to no one but myself. And I have no one to blame but myself. Outdoor Life, a magazine that I worked for full-time as Hunting Editor for almost 30 years, fired me yesterday. My TV show was cancelled yesterday. Many of my sponsors have issued statements on their website to sever all relationships. This may cause many of you to do backflips and dance in the streets, but, of course, I’m not laughing, nor am I looking for sympathy. I don’t want a pity party.

They say hindsight is golden. Looking back, I can’t believe I said the words “ban” and “terrorist” in the context that I did. I don’t know what I was thinking when I wrote that. I can explain this as sheer ignorance and an irresponsible use of words. What I’ve learned over the last few days has enlightened and amazed me. As a guy who hunts 200 days a year, does seminars on hunting, wrote for six hunting magazines, had a hunting TV show, and wrote 20 books on hunting, how could I have been so ignorant and out of touch with reality in the world of hunting and shooting?

But I was. I really can’t explain it, maybe because I just summarily dismissed the firearms in question in my mind when I saw them in magazines and catalogs. I saw one “black” firearm in a hunting camp in all my 50 years of hunting, and I shot one last year off a boat when fishing in Alaska. To tell the truth, it was fun and I enjoyed it immensely, but I never considered one for use in hunting. I have to tell you that I have had a revelation. I’m learning that many of my pals own AR-15’s and similar firearms and indeed use them for hunting. I was totally unaware that they were being used for legitimate hunting purposes. That is the absolute truth.

My biggest regret is not the financial impact of all this. I’m almost 67 and retirement is an option. The dreadful impact here is that I inadvertently struck a spear into the hearts of the people I love most…America’s gun owners. And, even though this huge cadre of dedicated people have succeeded in stripping me of my career, I hold no grudges. I will continue to stand as firm on pro hunting as I’ve ever done. But what’s different now is that I’ll do all I can to educate others who are, or were, as ignorant as I was about “black” rifles and the controversy that surrounds them. My promise to you is that I’ll learn all I can about these firearms, and by the time this week is out, I’ll order one. The NUGE has invited me to hunt with him using AR-15’s, and I’m eager to go, and learn. I’ll do all I can to spread the word.

I understand that many of you will not accept this apology, believing that the damage has been done and there’s no way to repair it. You have that right. But let me say this. I mentioned this above, and I’ll repeat it. I’m willing to seize this opportunity to educate hunters and shooters who shared my ignorance. If you’re willing to allow me to do that, we can indeed, in my mind, form a stronger bond within our ranks. Maybe in a roundabout way we can bring something good out of this."

Jim Zumbo

[skeet]

He blames the average joe for destroying his career!

"And, even though this huge cadre of dedicated people have succeeded in stripping me of my career, I hold no grudges."

Why does he blame us for doing that? He did it to himself! Now how to tell him. I do have his phone number(don't ask!) I really don't think he will ever get it.

[Riposte1]

Skeet, Aim to Maim;

I pretty much agree. Apparently from his response he does not get it.

I am a life long Hunter. I will support hunting as long as I live, but there is no constitutional right guaranateed specifically in the Constitution.

We are not, for example, guaranteed the right to "Keep and bear sporting goods".

Riposte

[M.T. Pockets]

Sorry, this don't cut it either.

He says he can't believe he used the words "terrorist" and "banned" I wonder if he'd feel that way if it wasn't for the backlash the statement created. Would he have issued an apology if he hadn't receive any negative comments ?

The fact that these rifles are used for his idea of " legitimate hunting purposes " seems irrelavent. Who made him the spokesman for what is legitimate or not.

By the way, isn't that a "black" synthetic stock rifle he's holding ?

The less press attention he gets from now on, the better.

[fabsroman]

Everybody makes mistakes and are entitled to a second chance. Maybe this will be a good lesson for politicians too. Maybe they will finally see that there are a bunch of sportsmen and gun owners in the world that are not going to stand for this crap.

I wouldn't care about owning a firearm if every person in the world were nice, but they aren't. I have friends of mine that never shot a firearm before they saw what happened in New Orleans. Now, they went out and bought handguns and have been going to the range. I went to lunch with them, and they were worried about not having an AR if stuff hit the fan, so I told them to buy one. Now, Maryland legislators are talking about banning them. It wasn't bad enough that LEO's too firearms away from law abiding citizens in New Orleans and have not yet given them back. Now, Maryland wants to ban some firearms on top of it. With politicians in office like this, it really pisses me off. Too bad Nagin got re-elected. Maybe, just maybe, he will lose enough votes over the gun issue that he will not be re-elected again. I just think good people do not want to run for office because of all the crap involved.

I'll accept Mr. Zumbo's apology, but he will have to earn my respect.

[Dan Morris]

Guess he didn't understand Yamamotos comment bout
waiking a sleeping giant.........................
Dan

[fabsroman]

By the way, I just want to be clear that I am not going to be supporting Mr. Zumbo by watching his show or endorsing him, and I do believe that people need to pay for their mistakes. With that said, I believe Mr. Zumbo has paid for his mistake with the loss of his job and endorsements, and I truly believe that he is sorry for screwing up. I'll harbor no ill will to him should I actually run in to him somehow.

[Andy L]

"I wouldn't care about owning a firearm if every person in the world were nice, but they aren't."

Fabs, I honestly cannot believe you just wrote those words. If everyone were nice, you wouldnt care about owning a firearm. You would be willing to give up hunting, range time and just the shear pleasure of the right to own a firearm if "everyone were nice".

Thats sick. I just cannot believe what I just read.

[Montana Cowboy]

Hey,Like Fab said "We ALL make mistakes" . MC

[fabsroman]

Yep, everybody makes mistakes, including me. Mine just aren't as big as Zumbo's. See, if we go off of my statement, there is no way that guns will ever be banned because there is no way that there will be no crime or violence in the world. Yeah, I wouldn't want to give up my guns even if everybody is nice, but it makes me look like a good guy in the anti's eyes. Sure I would give up my guns if you could promise me no crime or violence, or the possibility of a terrorist attack or an invasion by China. Quite honestly, if I had the choice between getting rid of guns and there being absolutely no violence in the world any more, I think I would be fine with it. However, I sit in way too many Court rooms where I get to see batteries that happened without the use of firearms. I have seen pics of women beaten pretty badly without the use of a firearm. So, there is no way that violence will ever end. Personally, I think everybody that is mentally stable should be required to carry a gun. That way, people will think twice about being violent.

What would the world be like if we all got along? If there were no murder, rapes, beatings, child molesting, etc? Andy, if God came down tomorrow and asked you if you would be willing to forego firearms for the rest of your life in return for him making it so no child would ever be molested again, how could you ever say no, I think I would prefer to shoot my guns for the fun of it. I know I couldn't.

Okay, it is really late and I have been working on tax returns for way too long today. I even think I contradicted myself in this post a couple of times. Hence, I am getting to sleep.

[Andy L]

"Andy, if God came down tomorrow and asked you if you would be willing to forego firearms for the rest of your life in return for him making it so no child would ever be molested again, how could you ever say no,"

Fabs if this happened, I would probably drawn iorn on god and tell him to tell Pelosi, or whatever deamon got to him to make a deal, to stick it where the sun dont shine. God would never ask good people to do something like that without being pinched. Either that or shoot the imposter.

I know you didnt mean what you said, or at least dont think so? You dont have guns for fear of your life, I know better than that. You like the same things I do.

I couldnt resist callin you on it though. You like to lawyer up on me all the time.

[skeet]

In both those posts you seriously sound like one of the Brady Bunch. Seriously. What you are doing is demonizing firearms. The way it comes across is that guns are responsible for all the evil things in the world. I know you know better but this is exactly what Zumbo did. He demonized a certain type of firearm and their owners. C'mon man...I know you are tired and the wind really hasn't been blowing 60 but these are the exact tactics the antis use against us. Save the chillun. I'd love to see no harm come to anyone in the world..but them A-rabs don't believe in the same god as you and me...not really and them Chinese don't believe in no god. And I can really use the double and triple negatives to make me look like a ol' redneck country boy. But you know better than to say stuff that ain't even close to reality. Guns are only as evil as their masters

Give up my guns if god came down and stopped all the bad stuff in the world? Well, Hillary thinks she is God! Give 'em to her!

[fabsroman]

What I find ironic is that after being on this board for around 6+ years, you guys really don't know me. Yes, I have guns because I use them for fun things, but also because I have nightmares. When I lived with my parents, I had nightmares about people breaking into the house and forcing me to make a shot with my dad held hostage. I have had the same nightmare happen on the hunting field where two guys have handguns and have my dad hostage and are talking to me through his handheld. Sometimes, I am 200 yards away with the .300 Win Mag and I have to make two shots in a crosswind. Sometimes I am 50 yards behind the morons high in a treestand. Recently, I have been having nightmares about people coming into my townhouse and me having to defend my wife and baby. Sometimes they are just plain bad guys, but last night's nightmare involved bad cops. I also have another nightmare where there are masked guys outside my window involved in a firefight with the police and I shoot both of them with an AR-10. At first, that nightmare resulted in both of the perps being my brother and me being responsible for their deaths. Since those initial nightmares, it has migrated to them not being my brothers, but into all kinds of other scenarios, like a police sniper shooting at me because he thinks I am one of the bad guys, to me being prosectured and sued afterward for murder/wrongful death. The recent one about bad cops breaking in probably has to do with a protective order case I am handling right now against a police officer. I cannot get into the details, but suffice it to say that he has wrongfully threatened people with his handgun. Oh yeah, then there is the nightmare where I have webcams set up in certain rooms of my parents' house so I can make sure that they are okay, and I witness bad cops executing them because they will not open the gun safe. That dream has migrated to my brothers also seeing it via web link and them getting into a fire fight with the police and heading to my house so we can alert the media and FBI. The list of my horrible dreams goes on and on. My wife talks to me about hers, but I don't feel like talking to her about these much, so most of the time I tell her that I didn't have any. Every once in a while I will tell her about one though.

Real life, my wife and I were awoken at 5:00 in the morning to what sounded like people coming up our stairway. The dog was barking and I could hear voices. Both my wife and I were scared to death, and I was extremely glad I had the HK 9mm at hand. Turned out to be some furniture delivery men delivering some couches to the next door neighbor whose staircase is right behind our bed. Man, was that a relief.

For those of you that live in the country, I am willing to bet that the crime rate is rather low. Here, while the crime rate is pretty decent, there are some shady spots. You should see the number of child molesters that live in my area. It isn't as bad as some of the crappier parts of the city, but there are enough to have me worried about it.

"Fabs if this happened, I would probably drawn iorn on god and tell him to tell Pelosi, or whatever deamon got to him to make a deal, to stick it where the sun dont shine. God would never ask good people to do something like that without being pinched. Either that or shoot the imposter."

I have no idea what iorn means, but maybe my example was a bad one for those that do not believe in God. Your response Andy is also a bad one though. We could go back and forth about the God statement (e.g., what if it was truly God, what if would truly happen), but we all know God isn't going to come down and promise us that there will no longer be any crime if guns are taken away. If Hilary wants to make a promise to me that all crime will go away and we no longer will need a criminal Court system if we give up our guns, and she is willing to back this promise with her life and the rest of the lives of those in Congress voting on it, I am all for it. Of course, we would need to medically install GPS's in them so they can be located for execution the day after the bill is signed because we all know crime isn't going to stop and the criminals aren't going to turn in their guns. We all know that China will continue to produce guns and there will be a black market for them for all the criminals here. I don't think getting rid of guns will work, but I want my guns more for fear of the 300 lb criminal and/or the criminal that will have one illegally while I have nothing, than for all the fun times that I have had with guns.

We can continue to go on and on with this debate, but I am going to leave it alone. You guys can continue to feel like you know everything that I am about, but I don't think anybody knows that. This is one of those subjective debates where there is no right or wrong answer, kind of like the debate I am having about God in another thread, which I am going to make my last post to in a minute. We presume to know why the arabs hate us, but we have no clue. That is probably like the feud between the Hatfields and the McCoys, which started over something stupid and continued for generations over stupidity.